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Old 12-19-2010, 07:20 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Well he still has a record win streak just the same. The fact that the win streak lasted as long as it did and span as long as it did is amazing. Forget counting the DQ loss!
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:56 PM   #72 (permalink)
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If you want to give Fedor a break on the DQ loss due to technicalities than you have to give him one for the Arona fight since it was a travesty of a decision. You can't have your cake and eat it to.
A bad decision isnt the same as a against the rules loss. What Fedors opponent did was illegal. Did Fedor do anything that was illegal and was awarded the win?? No... he was just awarded the win.

Sorry but you are reaching trying categorize it was the same thing. We both know it isnt... Fedors opponent has control over whether he hits someone with an illegal blow but Fedor has no control over the judges. So sorry... in this case i can have my cake and eat it too.


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No. If that is your definition of legend...then I don't see how that is a relevant aspect of what you are trying to say. Beating Nog, CC, Coleman are big accomplishments. Collecting "named fighters" who aren't great MMA fighters isn't that big of an accomplishment.
Because not only were these guys not that bad when Fedor beat them. He beat them without a single loss. This certainly adds to one of the greatest legacys of all time. Being a legend killer is a great thing to add to your resume. Though i can see that most of you would not agree that those people are legends but then dont take away from the fact that he beat all those guys without suffering a loss. Thats still an amazing feat.. and proves everything i want it to prove.
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Old 12-19-2010, 09:27 PM   #73 (permalink)
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fedor faded a while ago and his relevancy went with it
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Old 12-20-2010, 09:00 AM   #74 (permalink)
 
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A bad decision isnt the same as a against the rules loss. What Fedors opponent did was illegal. Did Fedor do anything that was illegal and was awarded the win?? No... he was just awarded the win.

Sorry but you are reaching trying categorize it was the same thing. We both know it isnt... Fedors opponent has control over whether he hits someone with an illegal blow but Fedor has no control over the judges. So sorry... in this case i can have my cake and eat it too.




Because not only were these guys not that bad when Fedor beat them. He beat them without a single loss. This certainly adds to one of the greatest legacys of all time. Being a legend killer is a great thing to add to your resume. Though i can see that most of you would not agree that those people are legends but then dont take away from the fact that he beat all those guys without suffering a loss. Thats still an amazing feat.. and proves everything i want it to prove.
Actually you don't you see I will give you a history lesson. The cut that Fedor had was not caused by that elbow the cut was from the Arona fight. Tsuyoshi Kohsaka was Japanese and the Japanese early on are renown for being crooked. This was an attempt IMO to get Kohsaka to advance because he was the "hometown" guy if you will. Why is it that Fedor was allowed to continue in the Arona fight and then advance with the cut? because they thought a wounded fighter made the easier opponent. Arona was already an accomplished grappler were Fedor had yet to make a name for himself. They screwed Arona so they could give Kohsaka an easier win which they did by then screwing Fedor. Yeah the crooked Japanese gave Fedor a screw job loss but it was in a fight he wouldn't have even been in had they not gave him a screw job win before that.
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Old 12-20-2010, 09:29 AM   #75 (permalink)
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Actually you don't you see I will give you a history lesson. The cut that Fedor had was not caused by that elbow the cut was from the Arona fight. Tsuyoshi Kohsaka was Japanese and the Japanese early on are renown for being crooked. This was an attempt IMO to get Kohsaka to advance because he was the "hometown" guy if you will. Why is it that Fedor was allowed to continue in the Arona fight and then advance with the cut? because they thought a wounded fighter made the easier opponent. Arona was already an accomplished grappler were Fedor had yet to make a name for himself. They screwed Arona so they could give Kohsaka an easier win which they did by then screwing Fedor. Yeah the crooked Japanese gave Fedor a screw job loss but it was in a fight he wouldn't have even been in had they not gave him a screw job win before that.
Uhhh and you didnt change anything with this history lesson.

Was the the elbow that opened up the cut on fedors face illegal or was it not illegal?? Was the fight stopped because of this cut?... ok moving on. Did Fedor bribe the judges during the arona fight, or possibly he could have used some jedi mind tricks??? Or is Fedor someone who simply came to fight and got mixed up in the middle of what you would call a "conspiracy theory".?? Your story changes nothing. Toxic just stop it... your pulling at straws and its pathetic. You can give me a history lesson dating back to the beginning of time and that still wouldnt change the fact that Fedor has nothing to do with bad judges. If you want to take it out on someone.. go take it out on the Japanese who set up your little conspiracy theory. Fedor got an L on his record because he was hit with an illegal elbow that REopened up a cut. In normal rules the opponent would have either been DQ or the fight would have been a NC. Once again i might point out that Fedor is just an innocent by-standard.

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Old 12-21-2010, 01:12 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Yeah, the fight was stopped because of the illegal elbow. As for the Arona fight, I'm more likely to believe the mind trick explanation. We all know that alot of what the Japanese do doesn't make sense!
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