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Old 12-15-2010, 03:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is Fedor's legacy and relevancy fading?

He hasn't re-signed with Strikeforce yet, so there're no fights in the foreseeable future. Given his loss to Werdum, and a noticable media absence since his loss, the question "is Fedor legacy and relevancy fading?" needs to be answered.
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Old 12-15-2010, 03:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i don't think so, I still think hes a great fighter. The problem everyone has is why doesn't he sign with the UFC? He'd be a great addition to the HW division and if he loses he could fight at LHW.
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What does this have to do with the UFC?
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I've been a huge Fedor fan in the past but I honestly think his legacy is in the toilet. In the last two plus years he has basically been a myth. He hasn't fought anyone relevant and has seemed satisfied to enjoy the esteem of his past conquest. He has had plenty opportunity to be in relevant fights but hasn't had the conviction to make them happen. It's hard to believe that Fedor himself believes he is the best HW fighter.
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lol

Do you people know what the word "legacy" means?
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No, his legacy will always be there. That's why it's a legacy. What you leave behind, and what you leave behind cannot be changed. Thus, all the amazing things, his amazing career/record/ and win/loss ratio, etc, is all there and will never be removed.

How relevant he is in MMA will change, though. Everyone gets irrelevant at some point. Hughes, Liddell, Wandy, countless others. You cannot stay at the top forever, but just like Liddell who got knocked out in like his last 4-5 straight will always have his legacy.

Also, thread moved to STRIKEFORECE.
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Old 12-15-2010, 04:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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No, his legacy will always be there. That's why it's a legacy. What you leave behind, and what you leave behind cannot be changed. Thus, all the amazing things, his amazing career/record/ and win/loss ratio, etc, is all there and will never be removed.

How relevant he is in MMA will change, though. Everyone gets irrelevant at some point. Hughes, Liddell, Wandy, countless others. You cannot stay at the top forever, but just like Liddell who got knocked out in like his last 4-5 straight will always have his legacy.

Also, thread moved to STRIKEFORECE.
I disagree. I think he has seriously tarnished his legacy. He had the same opportunity as all the great Pride alumni had. He could have done what Henderson, Rampage, shogun and the rest chose to do. He could have tried to fight the best. He didn't . He had a couple freak-shows, fought some has-beens and lost to a Werdum. That's not the resume of an all time great.
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lol

Do you people know what the word "legacy" means?
And I've already thought that it was only my non-English-nativeness which made me wonder...
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I disagree. I think he has seriously tarnished his legacy. He had the same opportunity as all the great Pride alumni had. He could have done what Henderson, Rampage, shogun and the rest chose to do. He could have tried to fight the best. He didn't . He had a couple freak-shows, fought some has-beens and lost to a Werdum. That's not the resume of an all time great.
You can disagree all you want, that doesn't mean your definition of "legacy" is even remotely accurate.

What he's done in his career as a whole is far greater than 99% of fighters out there. His last few years has not been his best (although he's beaten a a top 10, a top 5, and #2 in the last few years), the same way Liddell's last 2 years was him getting knocked out almost every single fight in the first round, one being a jab against Franklin, and also losing a decison to Jardine.

Using your logic of "legacy", Liddell has one of the worst ones a person can possibly have, which is why your definiton of legacy is ridiculous.

Fedor will be remembered as the greatest HW of all time whose last few years weren't his best. That's how most great fighters end their career.

http://www.mmaforum.com/ufc/85380-ca...ove-fight.html

Cain, Shogun, GSP, Penn, Sheilds, Bas, Wandy, and probably many other great fighters believe Fedor is not only the best HW, but the greatest fighter of all time.

Trust me, Fedor's legacy is perfectly safe.
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Old 12-15-2010, 06:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
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You can disagree all you want, that doesn't mean your definition of "legacy" is even remotely accurate.

What he's done in his career as a whole is far greater than 99% of fighters out there. His last few years has not been his best (although he's beaten a a top 10, a top 5, and #2 in the last few years), the same way Liddell's last 2 years was him getting knocked out almost every single fight in the first round, one being a jab against Franklin, and also losing a decison to Jardine.

Using your logic of "legacy", Liddell has one of the worst ones a person can possibly have, which is why your definiton of legacy is ridiculous.

Fedor will be remembered as the greatest HW of all time whose last few years weren't his best. That's how most great fighters end their career.

http://www.mmaforum.com/ufc/85380-ca...ove-fight.html

Cain, Shogun, GSP, Penn, Sheilds, Bas, Wandy, and probably many other great fighters believe Fedor is not only the best HW, but the greatest fighter of all time.

Trust me, Fedor's legacy is perfectly safe.
That he won against certain opponents is a fact that cannot be changed. But the quality of his past opponents has been questioned when compared to the quality of his would-be-UFC opponents. In that sense, people are questioning his legacy.
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