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General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.
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12-25-2010, 12:59 AM
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Middleweight
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Essex, UK
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Originally Posted by joshua7789
Lets see here, Strikeforce cant get Fedor to fight (if he does fight for them again and wins, prepare to go through more bullshit with m1), Overeem has fought once in strikeforce since he won his title damn near three years ago, Barnett is having a hard time getting licensed, Werdum wants to fight overseas. Strikeforce cant get there shit together, I think there is a two percent chance of this actually happening. This is what happens when an organization doesnt control there fighters.
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saying SF can't get Fedor to fight is like saying the UFC can't get Brock or Carwin to fight, no lie Fedor has fought the exact same number of times in the last 2 years as both of those guys, and I am betting that he will fight again before ether of them.
In fact lets look at the recent activity of the top UFC HW's over the last 2 years
Cain = 5
JDS = 5
Brock = 3
Carwin = 3
Mir = 4
Big Nog = 2
Fedor = 3
For the record Overeem has fought 4 MMA fights, 5 if you count the one he is fighting New Years Eve, and 9 Kick Boxing Matches.
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12-25-2010, 01:11 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Brock was sick for a long time and Carwin was actually supposed to fight Brock but was delayed waiting for him. Neither guy was busy "renegotiating". Both Lesnar and Carwin fought twice in the last year to Fedor's 1. Brock fought 6 times in the last 3 years to Fedor's 4. Your comparing a guy who was incredibly ill and required surgery to a guy who has been playing political games.
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12-26-2010, 02:31 AM
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#33 (permalink)
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The Title Guy
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Orange, California
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Yeah, Brock and Carwin just wanted to fight each other and just didn't care how long it would take. It is definately true both of those guys fought more than Fedor. If Fedor would just not let politics get in his way then he could be more favored! 
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12-27-2010, 03:05 PM
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Heavyweight
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Originally Posted by KillerShark1985
saying SF can't get Fedor to fight is like saying the UFC can't get Brock or Carwin to fight, no lie Fedor has fought the exact same number of times in the last 2 years as both of those guys, and I am betting that he will fight again before ether of them.
In fact lets look at the recent activity of the top UFC HW's over the last 2 years
Cain = 5
JDS = 5
Brock = 3
Carwin = 3
Mir = 4
Big Nog = 2
Fedor = 3
For the record Overeem has fought 4 MMA fights, 5 if you count the one he is fighting New Years Eve, and 9 Kick Boxing Matches.
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Of Fedors last three fights, only two of them were in Strikeforce and Strikeforce cant get him to fight right now, he is trying to renegotiate his contract. Kind of an odd thing to do considering that he is coming off a loss. Overeem has fought once in Strikeforce in the last two and a half years. His other fights in that time period have all been in other organizations overseas.
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12-27-2010, 07:10 PM
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The Title Guy
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Orange, California
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Yeah, but at least Overeem has been fighting. Fedor has only fought once this year. If he were getting more fights in with M-1 Global then that would be one thing but he isn't even fighting! 
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12-28-2010, 08:27 AM
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The Recipe
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Estonia
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Seriously, would Strikeforce suffer if they didn't sign Fedor once his contract is up?
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12-28-2010, 04:04 PM
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Heavyweight
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Originally Posted by Rauno
Seriously, would Strikeforce suffer if they didn't sign Fedor once his contract is up?
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I dont really think so. Fedor hasnt looked like a world beater in his two fights in Strikeforce and he is about as likeable as a rock.
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12-28-2010, 07:03 PM
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The Title Guy
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Yeah, Strikeforce has found a way to adjust so I don't think it's going to be a huge deal. If Fedor leaves them Strikeforce will adjust without one of the top fighters in the heavyweight division. Maybe that way he can just go back to Russia! 
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12-29-2010, 08:52 AM
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Lightweight
Join Date: Nov 2006
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SF can barely get their best HW's to fight once in a year and now they are supposed to fight 3 times in less than a year? Not happening, no chance.
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12-29-2010, 02:08 PM
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The Title Guy
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Orange, California
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Well it can work out but Strikeforce and all the fighters need to be willing to work together. And the question is whether Overeem's fights are going to be nontitle affairs. I'm pretty sure that the winner will either be the new champion or the next challenger! 
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