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post #31 of 48 (permalink) Old 12-29-2010, 07:42 PM
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I agree with his prediction that's why he is correct, destroying Bellators MW Champion Lombart,and then SF MW champ Souza,embarrassing Sobral for the LHW Belt,winning the Dream belt all before 25 ,and now fighting the K1 HW Champ you are right Mousasi is over rated
Although Souza loooked easily able to control Mousasi grappling and got very careless when he took that upkick at stopped him. Since, he has become a lot more measured in his approach although he still needs to calm down even further.

Gegard is too small for LHW I believe, I think he should move back to MW but the guy is as mad as BJ Penn, which is not a bad thing! Although he is always going to struggle against big, high level wrestlers in the LHW division I think.

Definately incredible though what he has already achieved for such a young kid. He is going to go down as a legend, that's for sure, just imagine his resume in another 10 years. Going to be a whose who of MMA.
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He is only 24 years old.

He already has a record wich most Legends only can dream off.

He has unlimited potential and even though Wrestling is hard to learn, why shouldn't he be able to fix that whole in a couple of years?

Now already, I doupt we will ever see him gas out like that again. More Cardio Training thats it!

You don't see massive potential in him? Really?

He is like Jon Jones just with ten times more experience not only in MMA.
Legends would dream of? What beating an older Sobral and subbing Manhoef? Bisping has a pretty sweet looking record too, but he hasn't beat that much of anything.

I see potential...but until I see him beat a serious contender I'm not going to predict him being the future UFC champ. Jon Jones as well. But at least we will see JJ against some top guys sooner rather than later.

That Mo performance was terrible. And that was a title fight. Sad that was at 205 also. How was his cardio that bad at 205? When he has fought a bunch at 185 also? Pretty sad to give that kind of performance in a title fight....tells me a lot about the guy.

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well.. fedor is the best hands down to ever step foot in SF... probably.. no.. it would be the same if he had ever got to ufc. maybe not now, but GOAT yea.

Overeem has a good argument. id say he beats out shields and gagard.



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you have to give some credit to Dan Henderson, people are starting to go a little low now ranking him outside the top 10 to ever enter SF.

Sure it depends how you look at it, if your just going to rank him on his achievements in SF then ok he wont cut the top 10 because he came along way to late in his career, but if your going to look at his entire MMA career and compare it to the entire MMA careers of others inside the company then you have to give him top 5.

And thats exactly what people who are saying Fedor No.1 are doing, but rightfully so Fedor is No.1 on this argument but that's only basing opinion on him achievements outside SF because at present he has only achieved the same in SF as Hendo.

Ok the thread maybe stupid, created by a stupid member but lets not take away credit to one of MMA's legends because of this.


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I think feijao is going to put a beating on dan big time. he is the perfect size for some knees.


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I agree with his prediction that's why he is correct, destroying Bellators MW Champion Lombart,and then SF MW champ Souza,embarrassing Sobral for the LHW Belt,winning the Dream belt all before 25 ,and now fighting the K1 HW Champ you are right Mousasi is over rated
he never destroyed lombard, he beat lombard by decision in pride which isn't even that bad, mousasi has a 30-3 record so i don't why he is getting ripped on for


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Legends would dream of? What beating an older Sobral and subbing Manhoef? Bisping has a pretty sweet looking record too, but he hasn't beat that much of anything.

I see potential...but until I see him beat a serious contender I'm not going to predict him being the future UFC champ. Jon Jones as well. But at least we will see JJ against some top guys sooner rather than later.

That Mo performance was terrible. And that was a title fight. Sad that was at 205 also. How was his cardio that bad at 205? When he has fought a bunch at 185 also? Pretty sad to give that kind of performance in a title fight....tells me a lot about the guy.
But don't you see, that this was exactly what he needed to become that great?

Only a loss like this will get him too the hill. Mo revealed every little hole in Mousasi's game.. this is exactly what he needed in this stage of his career.

If such a loss had happened.. let's say, when he was 30.. then I would I agree with you 100%.

But Gegard is only 24 years old.. this is the perfect timing for such a loss.
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But don't you see, that this was exactly what he needed to become that great?

Only a loss like this will get him too the hill. Mo revealed every little hole in Mousasi's game.. this is exactly what he needed in this stage of his career.

If such a loss had happened.. let's say, when he was 30.. then I would I agree with you 100%.

But Gegard is only 24 years old.. this is the perfect timing for such a loss.
It is what he needed. But some fighters get screwed up after that kind of loss, some fighters bounce back great. I just laugh at everyone basically saying it is a lock he becomes great and runs the LHW division in teh future. Go ahead an predict it, but why act like it is some lock.

Dude has an impressive record. But beating bums, average fighters, and B level fighters doesn't prove to me you are elite.

And it tells me a lot when he give a piss poor effort in a title fight. No cardio, not even trying to stop a TD. And his amazing grappling couldn't come close to subbing a tired Mo. Who is too say he doesn't fold again next time he is put through a tough challenge? Feijao didn't fold in his title fight against Mo. Some fighters just have that mentality. Look at Belfort. Great talent, the "Phenom"...well he went on to be mentally weak and lost his share of "tough" fights down the road.

All I am saying is lets not crown Mousasi, when he isn't even top 10. For me the jury is still out. I like results in big fights....not can collection and speculation.
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I'd actually vote Frank Shamrock. He may not have put on his best performances by the time he was fighting in SF but if you're going to compare careers I would say Frank Shamrock. Though Dan is a close second.

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