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Old 01-01-2011, 04:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Overeem has 2 fight someone good in my book

Well i think its time to see him fight some one good get over to the ufc he will have his hands full there for sure but i think he will play it safe and the money is probably good fighting for 3 different organizations and not top rank talent like he should be fighting.
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Outside the UFC nobody wants too.. ask Fedor!

Inside the UFC they HAVE too lol^^
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'd bet he's making 3 times as much fighting in Japan and Strikeforce than he would be in the UFC and he gets to do whatever the hell he wants. He seems pretty content with what he's doing right now.
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I smell another UFC nuthugger.

I would like to be the first to welcome you to the forum and respectfully point out that like most UFC nuthuggers you don't have a clue what you are talking about,
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I smell another UFC nuthugger.

I would like to be the first to welcome you to the forum and respectfully point out that like most UFC nuthuggers you don't have a clue what you are talking about,
You're getting paranoid with this UFC/SF stuff Killer
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You're getting paranoid with this UFC/SF stuff Killer
Thats all he ever talks about.

So defensive...sort of sad actually.
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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You're getting paranoid with this UFC/SF stuff Killer
I can see that's what it look like but you have me all wrong, personally I like both the UFC and SF, it just pisses me off when UFC Nuthuggers come along and think that in order to face good competition you need to be in the UFC, especially when this idea is point towards MMA heavyweights considering the lack of quality opponents with the UFC HW division.

When you look at the divisions right now I would say its more accurate to say that the decent HW's in the UFC been JDS and Cain, need to leave the UFC in order to face the other best HW's in the world on the circuit.
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There's a distinct lack of quality Heavyweight opponents full stop, more of them are in the UFC though, and the better fights will not come "on the circuit". Outside Alistair, Fedor and Werdum there's very, very little "on the circuit". Big Foot Silva's OK, but he wouldn't be anywhere near Top 5 in the UFC. My Top 10 HW's would be:

Cain
JDS
Alistair
Fedor
Brock
Carwin
Werdum
Mir
Nog
Nelson

7 UFC fighters, 3 SF Fighters. That's effectively "the circuit" right there. The only guys outside that Top 10 worth considering are Struve, Big Foot Silva and Schaub. Arlovski's on a horrible run, Barnett is past his best days and can't get licensed in the US and after that there's very, very little. This so called "circuit" doesn't exist. There is no-one else outside the UFC and Strikeforce, and outside Fedor, Werdum and Silva there are no legitimate opponents left "on the circuit" for Alistair to fight. You don't need to be in the UFC to fight the best, but the large majority of the best fighters in the world are in the UFC, which happens to be why it's the best MMA organisation in the world. This isn't some massive ZUFFA Marketing ruse to fool fans into believing inferior fighters under the UFC banner are better than guys outside the organisation, as much as you'd like to believe that the case. Another thing worth considering is that Strikeforce can't get their HW's to fight, even less so than the UFC's. The reason the UFC HW's haven't fought many times is due to injuries, Strikeforce just have no control over their guys. Fedor feels the need to re-negotiate his contract every couple of weeks; Alistair disappeared to Japan for a couple of years, not defending his belt for almost 3 years; Barnett can't get licensed and they're running out of contenders so Big Foot had to fight a blown up LHW. This mystical "circuit" you constantly talk about doesn't actually exist.
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