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01-24-2011, 01:35 AM
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The Reverend
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Originally Posted by Rauno
It's funny he said his dream fight is in 185 lbs against Anderson Silva. I know a Strikeforce guy in the same division who's eager to fight Nick.
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yeah but the strikeforce guy is there and can beat him..... calling out Anderson Silva makes him "look" better... even tho everyone knows it will never happen!!!!
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01-24-2011, 01:48 AM
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I think Nick is looking for a way to follow his mate Shields into the UFC, but I think the UFC will wait to see if he gets past not only his next opponent Cyborg but Daley as well, then it could well happen.
Would actually be quite interesting because if he does beat Daley then there are very few interesting fights left for him at WW at SF, the division is miles behind the UFC with only 3 top grade fighters in Daley, Diaz and Woodley. If Daley beats him tho it could really p1ss on his plan.
Should he get past those fights however in the perfect world the UFC and SF would come to a deal and swap Diaz for the Winner of the fit again by that point Cain vs JDS (after beating Brock) because lets face it if JDS beats Brock, they we are back to the only interesting UFC title fights been JDS vs Cain, so the winner is better off at SF where they have a nice selection of interesting fights for him, and same with Diaz unless he does the opposite and joins the UFC.
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01-24-2011, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JuggNuttz
yeah but your saying those 5 would beat him..... so if he fought 3 of those you listed back to back to back... he would lose and be out of the UFC.... sounds like you proved my point.
compared to the UFC..... StrikeForce is a minor league...... Nick is nothing more then a big fish in a small pond...... and he knows it
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He wouldn't fight those 3 in a row ever, that's now the UFC works. If he lost against any of them, he'd fight one of the lower ranked WW's i didn't mention. If he won, he might get to fight one of the one's I did, and repeat.
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01-24-2011, 02:02 AM
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The Reverend
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Originally Posted by Rastaman
He wouldn't fight those 3 in a row ever, that's now the UFC works. If he lost against any of them, he'd fight one of the lower ranked WW's i didn't mention. If he won, he might get to fight one of the one's I did, and repeat.
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but either way..... he would not beat any of them.... so either way he would fail in the UFC.... like he has already.......
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01-24-2011, 03:04 AM
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Statements like these from Nick make me wonder if he's dellusional. He won't ever fight Anderson and he sure as hell will never beat GSP. And just because he's beat a couple people in SF, doesn't mean that he would do well in the UFC.
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01-24-2011, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Rastaman
To say that he wouldn't make it in the UFC is ridiculous. He's no GSP (who is?), that's for damn sure, but there's no doubting he's a top 10 WW in the world. I would probably put only five WW's in the world above him:
GSP
Fitch
Koscheck (yes, Koscheck)
Jake Shields
Rumble Johnson
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LOL. Of all the UFC WW's to pick, you went with Anthony Johnson in the Top 5? Nick Diaz is not a Top 10 WW, he's barely fought anyone, and if he went to the UFC he'd be exposed and bumped out of the Top 10 talk for good. Nick would get beaten up by GSP, Fitch, Shields, Koscheck, Penn, Alves, Hughes, Kampmann, Condit, Stun Gun, Story, Hardy and he's already lost to Sanchez. He would not be in the top tier of the UFC's WW division, and he knows it, which is precisely why he signed a new 4 fight deal with Strikeforce.
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01-24-2011, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Danm2501
LOL. Of all the UFC WW's to pick, you went with Anthony Johnson in the Top 5? Nick Diaz is not a Top 10 WW, he's barely fought anyone, and if he went to the UFC he'd be exposed and bumped out of the Top 10 talk for good. Nick would get beaten up by GSP, Fitch, Shields, Koscheck, Penn, Alves, Hughes, Kampmann, Condit, Stun Gun, Story, Hardy and he's already lost to Sanchez. He would not be in the top tier of the UFC's WW division, and he knows it, which is precisely why he signed a new 4 fight deal with Strikeforce.
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This plus Lytle, Ellenberger, and a healthy Swick. I wouldn't say it is out of the question that several guys below them like Volkmann and MacDonald could beat him also.
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01-24-2011, 04:54 AM
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So I am guessing you guys think this is an easy win for Daley then, we will see, the Daley fight should tell us a lot.
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01-24-2011, 06:49 AM
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I just can't take for real what he's saying.
You have a fighter who says he is willing to fight a MW - Mayhem - but then he doesn't do it, because of weight issues, and Coker said it was really close to happening and it all fell apart because of 2 lbs.
And after he backs out of this fight, he goes on an fights a LW and can't put him away. Granted, Noons is a tough fighter.
Then he calls out the number 1 ranked WW in the world.
Grow up Nick.
He's talking too much crazy s**t for people to take him seriously.
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01-24-2011, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by KillerShark1985
So I am guessing you guys think this is an easy win for Daley then, we will see, the Daley fight should tell us a lot.
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Depends how the fight goes down, if Diaz decides to just take Semtex down, he'll end up submitting him by the end of the 2nd, and it'll prove very little about Nick Diaz's legitimacy as a top fighter. We all know how badly Daley sucks on the ground, and that Nick has very good BJJ. However, if Nick stands with Daley, and still wins the fight, then I will be impressed. That won't happen though, if Diaz stands with Daley, he gets blasted with Paul's big left hand and hits the canvas. It's an intriguing fight, and one I am looking forward to, but should Diaz take it to the ground and submit Semtex, I don't think it proves much.
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