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Old 02-14-2011, 04:58 AM   #221 (permalink)
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man, I was lucky Toxics pick stank.
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:34 AM   #222 (permalink)
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If we do a mass vote on who counts in the Under Card, there is going to be a lot of disagreeing.

I agree with US picking like 2 to 3 fights from the under card of our choosing i suppose... I mean there are still going to be fight nights where we cant even get 1 fighter from the under card that u can get ANY vid on period, so i would want to keep it low to make sure luck doesn't change the WHOLE outcome just enough so that people arnt choosing the same shit.

Like if we have the choice to choose 2 fights in the Under Card and we get to choose whatever 2 we want, the odds people choosing the same 2 and same decision will be enough to make everyone different, and make people like me happy that its not mostly Guessing...

Because if we make it like 4 from the undercard and there are only 4 to 5 in the main card, thats still half or almost half which will easily come down to luck in most cases....


So i do like the idea that WE get to choose a couple fights of OUR choice, as long as there isn't to many
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Old 02-14-2011, 12:25 PM   #223 (permalink)
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I'm going to do the majority thing again to see if anybody wants to do that MK, cause 2 will usually be the right number imo. This event coming up it's more than that, but won't always be. Gotta make it a vote from everyone who played though because that's how we got to main card only, and will send that out by pm tonight. I thank you guys for all the feedback and all that.
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Old 02-14-2011, 01:09 PM   #224 (permalink)
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I'm going to do the majority thing again to see if anybody wants to do that MK, cause 2 will usually be the right number imo. This event coming up it's more than that, but won't always be. Gotta make it a vote from everyone who played though because that's how we got to main card only, and will send that out by pm tonight. I thank you guys for all the feedback and all that.

Sweet i think that its a good idea, just so that people will all be different, but still on the same card.

And i totally agree with it being 2 to cover all events
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Old 02-14-2011, 02:59 PM   #225 (permalink)
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When we did prelims for the first event i just compared records and decided on a winner from that.. I really do think having main card picks only is not the right way.. Me and 420 nearly had the exact same picks in the nearly the exact same order. If they had have been exactly the same it would have been a draw regardless of the outcome of the fights..
So you would rather a winner be chosen on the basis of wikipedia guesswork than have a tie? It isn't the end of the world if you tie. I think the guesswork you described at first is worse.

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So you are good with the current system? On average there are four or five matches that we have to work with. You want that?
I am. One of the reasons I stopped participating in the other CPL was that it simply took way too much time to learn about all the guys on the undercard so when I didn't have time I was left guessing. When you win/lose because of guesses it becomes pointless.

I also hardly ever have time to watch all the undercards so on top of having to learn about these guys I don't see them fight.

If we went back to doing the full card I definitely will not be participating in the next one.

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Like it isn't hard enough to find real info/video on the main card guys already, were just going to look at wins and loses like its really going to help....

Its not how many they win its WHO they win against, and seeing how promising there fights look, and seeing there strong points, and compare it to the other fighters weakness.

How can we guess any of that if its a bunch of guys with no coverage or info on...

I might as well put all the undercard guys names in a hat and pull out my random guesses... I'm not going to waste time on this CPL if its going to be a pure guessing game, the Belt holder would just be Lucky and thats it....

And im not good with Chance, i have to earn my shit

Even if that means i have to guess the outcomes and the rounds exactly that takes more skill then 100% guess
I agree. The main card keeps everyone on a more even playing field for those of us who don't have an extra day to spend researching fighters we have never heard of. It also keeps it a game of skill rather than guesswork which several people have admitted they do in this thread.
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Old 02-14-2011, 11:16 PM   #226 (permalink)
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Yeah, but recently is has proven that picks are way too similar. I think the current system needs to change slightly. If only by one match cause the current picks are too close!
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:43 AM   #227 (permalink)
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Well, I sent one of my annoying private message votes to everybody that competed in this latest pick 'em event. Accidental typo in there, people "aren't" liking the sameness, to clear up the confusion, well a little. Just say if you'd rather keep picking the main card, or add 2 prelims of your choice to it, if you have time. I'll add them up and go with the majority and let you know.

So far, picking 2 prelims of your choice with the main card is winning over picking the main card only 11-4. 11 votes were needed one way or the other to make a majority, so it looks like next event we'll go with a couple prelims, whichever you feel most confident with from the list they release.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:35 AM   #228 (permalink)
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fedor has fought everyone above his weight class, so he shouldn't quit.

let him fight his weight class.
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Old 02-15-2011, 10:57 PM   #229 (permalink)
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Ok, what do you define as his weightclass? Are you saying he should start cutting weight? Well considering that he was 230lbs. for this last fight I could see how they could make that happen!
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:28 AM   #230 (permalink)
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Hey, so you guys know the ones who haven't yet (5 right now) don't have to reply to that pm vote thing. 11 people said they wanted to pick a couple prelims, so looks like we'll do that next time. Hope the 4 or so that said main card only will still play, you can pick whichever prelim fights you want and put them wherever you want in the confidence order.
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