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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-08-2007, 12:25 AM Thread Starter
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Fighters that helps mma or martial arts in general evolve?

You know how the UFC has an hall of fame and all, well thats nice, but what about the guys that really helped mma evolves towards having a great style of fighting against anyone?

I think the first thing that comes to mind is the Gracie familly, they basically made mma. But after that, who made mma evolve this well?

An example of a guy who did not, even if hes a champ, is Chuck liddell.. hes a good striker, he showed that mma still needs to be about striking. But in the end, when he retires, what will the other fighters learn from him? You cant teach how to have a great chin.

Sakuraba certainly brought something to the mma game, always trying something new, and was one of the first to show the gracies and the world that grappling is great, but after learning about it, striking remains important in an mma fight. Ironically, he kept loosing after because he would get destroyed by other strikers. Anyways, he was one of the first well rounded fighters in mma.

What about guys like silva, shogun, or fedor? What have they brought, and most important, what will they leave to mma? Fedor is considered the best fighter in the world, hes undefeated, but is he going to leave anything when he retires?
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-08-2007, 07:59 AM
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Pat Miletich because of "Miletich Fighting Systems"

Miletich Fighting Systems current and former MMA titleholders

* Matt Hughes, former UFC Welterweight Champion
* Tim Sylvia, current UFC Heavyweight Champion
* Dan Casey, former Ultimate Combat Sports 155lb. Champion
* Spencer "The King" Fisher, former Victory Championships Middleweight Champion, former IFC Middleweight Champion
* Jeremy Horn, former KOTC Light Heavyweight Championship, now trains with Elite Performance
* Jennifer Howe, former Extreme Challenge Middleweight Champion
* Jens Pulver, former UFC Lightweight Champion
* "Ruthless" Robbie Lawler, former ICON Sport Middleweight Champion
* Pat Miletich, former UFC Welterweight Champion
* Josh "The Dentist" Neer, former Xtreme Kage Kombat Welterweight Champion
* Ben Rothwell, former U.S. MMA Heavyweight Champion

MFS Professional Fighters

* Jason Black
* Marshall Blevins
* Evan Boemer
* Mike Ciesnolevicz
* LaVerne Clark
* Ben Earwood
* Justin Eilers
* Billy Fink
* Emily Fisher
* Clay French
* Tony Fryklund
* Nick Gegen
* Rick Gravesen
* Sean Hoffman
* Sam Hoger
* Jeremy Horn
* Matt Hughes
* Brad Imes
* Noah Inhafer
* Danny Ives
* Adrienna Jenkins
* Joe Jordan
* Lenna Kouzas
* Rory Markham
* Ryan McGivern
* Jason Medina
* Perry Olson
* Nick Ouellette
* Bart Palaszewski
* Joe Pierson
* Nate Schroeder
* Joe Slick
* Tim Sylvia
* Ron Turcsak
* Ben Uker
* Mike Whitehead
* Matt Williams
* Travis Wiuff
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post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-22-2007, 03:34 PM
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Definatley Fedor and the Miletich Fighting Systems is producing some very good talent
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post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-22-2007, 03:58 PM
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I'll say Karo Parisyan, but, not for this generation of fighters. He has inspired pretty much all young teens to include Judo in their training for MMA.
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post #5 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-22-2007, 04:05 PM
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GSP is another example for this... he has developed great skills in all areas of the game
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post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-22-2007, 04:32 PM
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I wouldn't say Chuck left nothing for the next generation of fighters. He demonstrated time and time again that a good sprawl is essential to be a successful striker.
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post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-23-2007, 11:27 AM
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As far as fighting evolution goes here is who is on top.

Stand up game, Fedor due to his unique punches.

Ground game, Shin Aoki due to the best submission in MMA right now.
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Ken Shamrock - He was one of the first to completely evolve all parts of his game and become a full MMA fighter.

GSP/Fedor/Shogun - Perfecting the well roundedness needed to succeed in MMA.

Bas Rutten/Quinton Jackson - Bringing humor to mma
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GSP- well-roundedness and explosiveness
Royce- obviously for putting bjj on the map
Fedor- introducing sambo as an effective system to everyone outside of russia

as far as teacher's of mma go:

Militich is obvious. he produces more quality fighters than anyone.
Randy will be on this list as well. He just opened his gym and he's a great, knowledgeable teacher.

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