Originally Posted by Maazisrock
People kept using size as an excuse when Brock beat Randy and Mir. Yet when he lost to Cain his size didn't matter? Its skill that prevails not size. Same thing happened with fedor tonight.
Cain is just that much better than Mir. He's faster, stronger, and has better wrestling which allowed him to get Brock off him rather than take a beating like Mir did.
Couture was undoubtedly too small for Lesnar. He weighed in at 220, he probably gave up 50-60 pounds. It would take skill beyond Couture's to deal with Lesnar. It would take much better striking which Cain has... the outcome was a Brock ass whoopin.
Fedor has superior wrestling/judo and striking than Bigfoot, but perhaps not better BJJ. But Fedor has survived with Ricardo Arona all over him on the ground, so Fedor is elite in BJJ too. So if he can deal with Arona but not Silva... wht's the difference? I'll let you work that one out.
Fedor's skill and power are no longer enough because there's heavyweights who cut to 265 who now have legit skills. There wasn't anyone around in 2005/6 that were that heavy and so well rounded fighters with one high level attribute such as Bigfoot with his BJJ. Cain is heavier than Fedor by a whole weight division but he would still struggle to deal with the size of Bigfoot. I think Cain's skills are beyond Bigfoot's but Fedor vs Cain would be far more competitive than last night. That too is down to size.
It's not an exact science but it's pretty obvious size matters, and Fedor was on top in an era when super heavyweights who had wrestling titles or BJJ blackbelts didn't exist. The loss to Werdum I think is pure coincidence. 9 times out of 10 Fedor would have knocked Werdum out but he got sloppy, and maybe a legit heavyweight BJJ black belt was a newish scenario to Fedor. But I think that was a fluke, but Fedor would have lost to Bigfoot regardless because he's simply too small.
It's not an excuse... it's acknowledging that the division Fedor has fought in throughout his career is now being populated with real elite heavyweights. That's evolution, and it's the reason Fedor has fallen. That doesn't change the fact that when Pride ended Fedor was easily the best heavyweight on the planet. The only competition was Sylvia and Couture. I can only imagine what the KO would have been like if Fedor ever fought Randy - that shit would have been cold. And Sylvia... well Fedor pretty much ended his career. He could still smash most heavyweights too except a select few. And if he dropped to 205 who knows, I don't think anyone could deal with him.