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Maazisrock 02-13-2011 02:37 AM

Size Doesn't Matter
 
People kept using size as an excuse when Brock beat Randy and Mir. Yet when he lost to Cain his size didn't matter? Its skill that prevails not size. Same thing happened with fedor tonight.

limba 02-13-2011 02:41 AM

When the bigger guy doesn't have great skills (Brock) and the smaller guy has better skills - then NO, size doesn't matter!

But when you are 230 lbs heavy and you have a 285 lbs Brazilian Black Belt mounting you, dropping bombs and going for submissions - then YES, size matters!

marcthegame 02-13-2011 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Maazisrock (Post 1361155)
People kept using size as an excuse when Brock beat Randy and Mir. Yet when he lost to Cain his size didn't matter? Its skill that prevails not size. Same thing happened with fedor tonight.

In fedor case size did matter, silva is talented no doubt but that sasquatch mother****er moves like Frankenstein. If he was fedor size fedor would have killed him. But size plus skills is to much. Lesnar is big, but cain matched his style plus is much more skilled. Mir was to small and sucks at wrestling.cain matched lesnbar strength in wrestling

SigFig 02-13-2011 02:46 AM

Size only matters when the smaller guy loses.

andromeda_68 02-13-2011 03:17 AM

skill > size

there's lots of examples (like those freak show fights in japan) where huge guys routinely got destroyed by much smaller guys.

that said, if you get two otherwise well-matched fighters in the ring together, an extra 15+ pounds can make all the difference.

BWoods 02-13-2011 03:22 AM

If Bigfoot were a smaller fighter Fedor would have been able to get away from him when he was being pressed against the cage. He would have also been able to reverse the trip takedown and throw Silva's legs aside easier when he had top position. He would have also been able to buck Silva when he was mounted.

While Silva had great technique and control, it was ultimately his size that allowed him to maintain those positions. If Bigfoot were 250lbs in the fight instead of 280lbs, it would have been a completely different story in my opinion. With solid technique and control a big guy can cause all kinds of trouble for someone more skilled but smaller. Brett Rogers had terrible technique but he was able to control Fedor against the cage as well as sweep and mount him. Bigfoot has much better technique than Rogers, yes, but his size is what really did the most damage. The combination of grinding Fedor out on the fence and then maintaining chest-to-chest like Brock Lesnar did to Frank Mir, is what really kept Fedor still.

SigFig 02-13-2011 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BWoods (Post 1361204)
If Bigfoot were a smaller fighter Fedor would have been able to get away from him when he was being pressed against the cage... If Bigfoot were 250lbs in the fight instead of 280lbs, it would have been a completely different story in my opinion. .

I'd go so far as to add that... If Antonio Silva were Assuerio Silva, Fedor would've totally won that fight.

BWoods 02-13-2011 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SigFig (Post 1361206)
I'd go so far as to add that... If Antonio Silva were Assuerio Silva, Fedor would've totally won that fight.

I'd be inclined to agree with you. Considering that Asssuerio Silva is considerably less talented than Antonio Silva. =D

No_Mercy 02-13-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Maazisrock (Post 1361155)
People kept using size as an excuse when Brock beat Randy and Mir. Yet when he lost to Cain his size didn't matter? Its skill that prevails not size. Same thing happened with fedor tonight.

You should try rolling in a BJJ class with people who weigh in excess of 200lbs. Even the noobies cause difficulties from their sheer weight. After several rounds it's exhausting. Now imagine Fedor with a 285 pounder throwing bombs on you. The fact that he survived was a feat on its own. Unfortunately it's not 1993 anymore. Most fighters are very well rounded now.

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Originally Posted by limba (Post 1361158)
When the bigger guy doesn't have great skills (Brock) and the smaller guy has better skills - then NO, size doesn't matter!

But when you are 230 lbs heavy and you have a 285 lbs Brazilian Black Belt mounting you, dropping bombs and going for submissions - then YES, size matters!

Truth! How did Fedor fight off the RNC, arm triangle, and knee bar. It looked tight! Man if only there was a third round. Fedor had the first round then he went for broke in the opening 2nd round and got taken down. It was the beginning of the end and perhaps the end of "The Emperor's" reign.

It's all on Overeem now!

Saenchai 02-13-2011 11:12 AM

fedor should drop to 205!


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