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Old 02-16-2011, 02:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How come Alistair Overeem gets a pass....

.....while Fedor takes all the flak for fighting cans and bums? Overeem has beaten Todd Duffee, Gary Goodridge, James Thompson, and Mark Hunt! Oh, and he had one N/C against Cro Cop due to repeated groin strikes. Despite his quality of opponents people on this forum are ready to declare him in the top 3.

Fedor on the other hand had beaten 3 top ten HW in the past two years and he gets all the ridicule in the world because he lost to Werdum and Silva.

Somebody please help me understand the logic behind this?
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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because fedor is not wearing 3 belts right now
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Old 02-16-2011, 03:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Overeem is a weird case, alot of critics say he is not a top MMA HW fighter because he hasent fought anyone in MMA thats relevant. And he beat Todd Duffee for an interm DREAM HW Title, so its not worth that much. While his fans say he is a top HW fighter period, because he is the StrikeForce HW Champ, the Dream HW Champ, and the K-1 GP Champ, and if he wins this SF HW GP, he has got to be #1 MMA HW. Fedor no longer has that chance. It depends if you think all of these accolades actually portray his status as a top MMA fighter.
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Old 02-16-2011, 03:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Because he is the champion and the #1 contender --- first Fedor (for years), then Werdum didn't want to fight him.
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Old 02-16-2011, 03:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
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.....while Fedor takes all the flak for fighting cans and bums? Overeem has beaten Todd Duffee, Gary Goodridge, James Thompson, and Mark Hunt! Oh, and he had one N/C against Cro Cop due to repeated groin strikes. Despite his quality of opponents people on this forum are ready to declare him in the top 3.

Fedor on the other hand had beaten 3 top ten HW in the past two years and he gets all the ridicule in the world because he lost to Werdum and Silva.

Somebody please help me understand the logic behind this?
Alistair DOES get flak for it, it's just his recent performances and obvious ability suggest that he is on a massive upswing. Meanwhile Fedor is clearly on a downswing at the moment.
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Old 02-16-2011, 04:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
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if you're in Strikeforce, more times than not you are fighting "cans and bums". Both Overeem and Fedor and the rest of them.
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I 100% agree with the writer, plus the Todd fight the guy took it on very very very short notice, and I think he was seeking a lucky win nothing more.

The Reem is advancing this is something I don't doubt about it, but honestly Fedor has been taken by "Mouths" just because of hate or other racism stuff which I hate.

Fedor is a true fighter, he gave us some of the best fights in MMA history, and its a matter of time and he will be back to shut mouths
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if you're in Strikeforce, more times than not you are fighting "cans and bums". Both Overeem and Fedor and the rest of them.
If they are "cans and bums" as you say? Why do you watch them?

Mate give us a break
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Old 02-16-2011, 06:20 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Because he is not Fedor, the greatest of all time. Fedor was the number one guy for like a decade and people wanted to see him against the best.
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Old 02-16-2011, 07:23 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Fedor is consider the goat, he will have his haters. Reem however ia ******* huge, has the all the tools to be great. unlike fedor you can't find a weakness. For example, fedor vs brock...key factor is size...with reem vs anybody he is the favourite. On paper reem is a monster unlike guys like lesnar etc he is actually skilled. He just has to go out and fight people before it becomes offical. Even if he is fighting cans/bums he is walking through them like nothing.
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