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04-09-2011, 02:22 PM
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Yeah its the main event im not sure about aswell..
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04-09-2011, 02:26 PM
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#112 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper
reach and stamina are exactly even kanto.
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Physical reach yes. Diaz uses his reach much more then Daley though. Daley is a short power puncher while Diaz tries to pick his opponents apart from distance.
As for stamina. Both aren't bad but I probably would give Diaz a slight advantage. Daley cuts a lot and his punches do slow down later in fights. Diaz keeps motoring on and usually fights at a higher pace.
Still undecided on this fight, going to bet on Daley because of the odds though.
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04-09-2011, 02:36 PM
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#113 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by 420atalon
Physical reach yes. Diaz uses his reach much more then Daley though. Daley is a short power puncher while Diaz tries to pick his opponents apart from distance.
As for stamina. Both aren't bad but I probably would give Diaz a slight advantage. Daley cuts a lot and his punches do slow down later in fights. Diaz keeps motoring on and usually fights at a higher pace.
Still undecided on this fight, going to bet on Daley because of the odds though.
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I don't know where the question about Daley's cardio is coming from  Have never seen him being tired before, not even in the tough Masvidal fight. He looked the same in the third like he did in the first. Diaz looked very tired to me in the Scott Smith fight after being tagged several times by perhaps one of the worst strikers in the Sport today.
Daley is so quick, so atheltic and so powerful counter striker. He moves in with his jab and hook's just like that, you don't even see them coming. It's the ideal striking style to face somebody like Diaz who comes at you with his hands at his waist and chin up.
How can Daley not land every punch he is throwing?
Maybe I am just completely delusional, but I see nothing but an early stoppage for Paul here.
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04-09-2011, 02:44 PM
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#114 (permalink)
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good luck Couchwarrior
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04-09-2011, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper
I don't know where the question about Daley's cardio is coming from  Have never seen him being tired before, not even in the tough Masvidal fight. He looked the same in the third like he did in the first. Diaz looked very tired to me in the Scott Smith fight after being tagged several times by perhaps one of the worst strikers in the Sport today.
Daley is so quick, so atheltic and so powerful counter striker. He moves in with his jab and hook's just like that, you don't even see them coming. It's the ideal striking style to face somebody like Diaz who comes at you with his hands at his waist and chin up.
How can Daley not land every punch he is throwing?
Maybe I am just completely delusional, but I see nothing but an early stoppage for Paul here.
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Agree on most of that.
The problem is that Diaz is similar to Masvidal but better in every regard...
Fighters that can keep their self outside of Daleys power range have a decent chance of at least surviving. That is all Diaz has to do until Daley makes a mistake and gives Diaz the takedown and submission.
If Daley had good takedown defense or the slightest ground game I would pick him in this fight easily. Sadly he is one dimensional and his opponent has a good ground game(although mediocre takedowns).
Diaz has only been knocked out once in 32 fights. He knows how to survive. I hope Daley knocks him the f out but I don't know that it will happen.
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04-09-2011, 03:03 PM
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Me, Daley and Mousasi are all going for the KO.
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04-09-2011, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 420atalon
Agree on most of that.
The problem is that Diaz is similar to Masvidal but better in every regard...
Fighters that can keep their self outside of Daleys power range have a decent chance of at least surviving. That is all Diaz has to do until Daley makes a mistake and gives Diaz the takedown and submission.
If Daley had good takedown defense or the slightest ground game I would pick him in this fight easily. Sadly he is one dimensional and his opponent has a good ground game(although mediocre takedowns).
Diaz has only been knocked out once in 32 fights. He knows how to survive. I hope Daley knocks him the f out but I don't know that it will happen.
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And thats just not true at all.
I can't make you believe this probably, nobody will probably.. but Diaz is just and awful, awful Wrestler and he just can't take people down. Also, if he somehow gets one Takedown wich would be very lucky cause Daley is just immense strong and athletic plus has very underrated TDD.. then what makes you people think he could just submit a purble belt just liket that?
Diaz couldn't do Nothing after laying on top of KJ Noons who doesn't even have a purple belt in BJJ. The thought that Diaz takes him down and submits him right away is completely delusional.
Even if Diaz gets the Takedown somehow.. Daley will be right back up. Cause Diaz can't Wrestle and has zero top control.
Daley is not one-dimensional at all with decent Wrestling and decent BJJ and amazing standup skills. Not much more one-dimensional then Nick is.
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04-09-2011, 03:15 PM
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I think my picks are all locked in now...
Gonna take a walk to the shop, pick some beers up and just have a last minute think before submitting them when i get back..
This is the biggest fight of my career.. I am nearly ready.
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04-09-2011, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper
And thats just not true at all.
I can't make you believe this probably, nobody will probably.. but Diaz is just and awful, awful Wrestler and he just can't take people down. Also, if he somehow gets one Takedown wich would be very lucky cause Daley is just immense strong and athletic plus has very underrated TDD.. then what makes you people think he could just submit a purble belt just liket that?
Diaz couldn't do Nothing after laying on top of KJ Noons who doesn't even have a purple belt in BJJ. The thought that Diaz takes him down and submits him right away is completely delusional.
Even if Diaz gets the Takedown somehow.. Daley will be right back up. Cause Diaz can't Wrestle and has zero top control.
Daley is not one-dimensional at all with decent Wrestling and decent BJJ and amazing standup skills. Not much more one-dimensional then Nick is.
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I can see Diaz getting the trip takedown from the clinch like he has against many of his past opponents...
Daley has been taken down by almost every decent fighter he has fought and usually he ends up staying there until the bell sounds or he gets submitted... All of his losses have been from being submitted or outwrestled except for one fight that he was injured in...
Diaz has fought power punchers before and has taken big shots and survived. Gomi, Zaromski, Smith, Noons, Santos, Lawler etc. He finds ways to survive though and finds ways to win fights. Diaz has only really struggled with good wrestlers and that is something that Daley is not.
This fight really could go either way imo. Daley tko in first two rounds or Diaz sub in later 3 rounds is how I see it playing out.
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04-09-2011, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 420atalon
I can see Diaz getting the trip takedown from the clinch like he has against many of his past opponents...
Daley has been taken down by almost every decent fighter he has fought and usually he ends up staying there until the bell sounds or he gets submitted... All of his losses have been from being submitted or outwrestled except for one fight that he was injured in...
Diaz has fought power punchers before and has taken big shots and survived. Gomi, Zaromski, Smith, Noons, Santos, Lawler etc. He finds ways to survive though and finds ways to win fights. Diaz has only really struggled with good wrestlers and that is something that Daley is not.
This fight really could go either way imo. Daley tko in first two rounds or Diaz sub in later 3 rounds is how I see it playing out.
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Fair enough
Lets see what happens^^ can't wait any longer 
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