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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 03-27-2011, 11:48 AM Thread Starter
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Lyotolegion World Rankings: March 2011

1. Cain Velasquez
2. Junior dos Santos
3. Fabricio Werdum
4. Alistair Overeem
5. Antonio Silva
6. Brock Lesnar
7. Shane Carwin
8. Fedor Emelianenko
9. Frank Mir
10. Brendan Schaub

1. Jon Jones
2. Rashad Evans
3. Mauricio Rua
4. Quinton Jackson
5. Lyoto Machida
6. Forrest Griffin
7. Dan Henderson
8. Ryan Bader
9. Matt Hamill
10. Phil Davis

1. Anderson Silva
2. Chael Sonnen
3. Yushin Okami
4. Ronaldo Souza
5. Nate Marquardt
6. Damian Maia
7. Brain Stann
8. Jorge Santiago
9. Wanderlei Silva
10. Michael Bisping

1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Jon Fitch
3. Thiago Alves
4. Jake Shields
5. Carlos Condit
6. Nick Diaz
7. Josh Koscheck
8. Paul Daley
9. BJ Penn
10. Diego Sanchez

1. Frankie Edgar
2. Gray Maynard
3. Gilbert Melendez
4. Eddie Alvarez
5. Jim Miller
6. Shinya Aoki
7. Anthony Pettis
8. Melvin Guillard
9. Tatsuya Kawajiri
10. Clay Guida
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I can't say I disagree too much, there are some minor things I would change but honestly I think you did a good job with this.

EDIT: Except the fact that people constantly ignore the FW and BW divisions is getting annoying.

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stats look very decent

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No reason for Big Nog to be off in favour of Schaub, and Hammill should be nowhere near a top 10, let alone 9th.

1: Cain Velasquez
2: Brock Lesnar
3: Fabricio Werdum
4: Junior Dos Santos
5: Shane Carwin
6: Alistair Overeem
7: Antonio Silva
8: Frank Mir
9: Fedor Emelianenko
10: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

1: Jon Jones
2: Rashad Evans
3: Mauricio Rua
4: Rampage Jackson
5: Lyoto Machida
6: Dan Henderson
7: Forrest Griffin
8: Thiago Silva
9: Ryan Bader
10: Gegard Mousasi

1: Anderson Silva
2: Chael Sonnen
3: Yushin Okami
4: Ronaldo Souza
5: Nate Marquardt
6: Demian Maia
7: Jorge Santiago
8: Michael Bisping
9: Vitor Belfort
10: Wanderlei Silva

1: Georges St-Pierre
2: Jake Shields
3: Jon Fitch
4: Thiago Alves
5: BJ Penn
6: Nick Diaz
7: Carlos Condit
8: Josh Koscheck
9: Martin Kampmann
10: Paul Daley

1: Frankie Edgar
2: Gray Maynard
3: Shinya Aoki
4: Gilbert Melendez
5: Eddie Alvarez
6: Jim Miller
7: Tatsuya Kawajiri
8: Clay Guida
9: Anthony Pettis
10: Melvin Guillard

1: Jose Aldo
2: Hatsu Hioki
3: Chad Mendes
4: Manvel Gamburyan
5: Diego Nunes
6: Marlon Sandro
7: Mark Hominick
8: Hiroyuki Takaya
9: Joe Warren
10: Michihiro Omigawa

1: Dominick Cruz
2: Urijah Faber
3: Joe Benavidez
4: Miguel Angel Torres
5: Brian Bowles
6: Scott Jorgesen
7: Takeya Mizugaki
8: Demetrious Johnson
9: Michael McDonald
10: Brad Pickett

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No reason for Big Nog to be off in favour of Schaub, and Hammill should be nowhere near a top 10, let alone 9th.
Exactly what I was thinking.

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1: Jose Aldo
2: Hatsu Hioki
3: Chad Mendes
4: Manvel Gamburyan
5: Diego Nunes
6: Marlon Sandro
7: Mark Hominick
8: Hiroyuki Takaya
9: Joe Warren
10: Michihiro Omigawa
Why do you have the number one contender at 7th?

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1. Cain Velasquez
2. Junior dos Santos
3. Fabricio Werdum
4. Alistair Overeem
5. Antonio Silva
6. Brock Lesnar
7. Shane Carwin
8. Fedor Emelianenko
9. Frank Mir
10. Brendan Schaub
I can pretty much agree here. I think that Schaub is questionable. But so is anyone that would be put in his place at #10.

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1. Jon Jones
2. Rashad Evans
3. Mauricio Rua
4. Quinton Jackson
5. Lyoto Machida
6. Forrest Griffin
7. Dan Henderson
8. Ryan Bader
9. Matt Hamill
10. Phil Davis
I mostly agree here as well. Hammil and Davis should be swapped, not sure if Hammil is top ten right now, but is close, as would match well against anyone else 11-15.

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1. Anderson Silva
2. Chael Sonnen
3. Yushin Okami
4. Ronaldo Souza
5. Nate Marquardt
6. Damian Maia
7. Brain Stann
8. Jorge Santiago
9. Wanderlei Silva
10. Michael Bisping
My only disagreements here are: Santiago should be 10, if on the list at all. He is solidly comparable to Mayhem and Kennedy.

Also: Maia and Souza should be swapped in that Maia is 2-1 over Souza in JJ competition, and IMO has better stand up.

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1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Jon Fitch
3. Thiago Alves
4. Jake Shields
5. Carlos Condit
6. Nick Diaz
7. Josh Koscheck
8. Paul Daley
9. BJ Penn
10. Diego Sanchez
Here I think Koscheck and Diaz should be swapped, they both have solid groundfighting, but I put Koscheck's wrestling over Diaz's JJ.

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1. Frankie Edgar
2. Gray Maynard
3. Gilbert Melendez
4. Eddie Alvarez
5. Jim Miller
6. Shinya Aoki
7. Anthony Pettis
8. Melvin Guillard
9. Tatsuya Kawajiri
10. Clay Guida
I would put Pettis above Aoki, and Guida above Guillard.

ON the lighter weights. I don't pretend to be developed in my knowledge of the Featherweight and Bantamweight divisions. So I won't pretend I have the knowledge base to write up a developed top ten.



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Also: Maia and Souza should be swapped in that Maia is 2-1 over Souza in JJ competition, and IMO has better stand up.
You think being 2-1 over him in JJ competitions should affect a P4P ranking when Souza is the SF MW champion?

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Why do you have the number one contender at 7th?
Because there are 6 dudes better and more accomplished than him

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You think being 2-1 over him in JJ competitions should affect a P4P ranking when Souza is the SF MW champion?
Yes.

Being a champion doesn't mean a damn thing. P4P isn't about accomplishments. Its about skills. Maia obviously has the superior JJ. How is that debateable?



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