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post #151 of 160 (permalink) Old 04-11-2011, 11:01 AM
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I'm a big Mousasi fan, but can't find fault in the decision, based on the current (flawed) mma scoring system... Would really like to see Gegard motivated. Dude just seems so whatever about his whole fighting career.

Though, I wouldn't say Jardine Fitch'd Mousasi, as Fitch actually controls his opponents on the ground.

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post #152 of 160 (permalink) Old 04-11-2011, 12:06 PM
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By the scoring system I understand the draw.

But it doesn't change the fact that Mousasi whooped Jardines ass all over that cage.

I'd have to say Mousasi won simply because there was no warning for the deduction and Jardine wasn't stunned by the "illegal blow".

Crappy point deduction = Bad reffing.
Bad reffing = Draw.
No deduction = Mousasi 29-28
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By the scoring system I understand the draw.

But it doesn't change the fact that Mousasi whooped Jardines ass all over that cage.

I'd have to say Mousasi won simply because there was no warning for the deduction and Jardine wasn't stunned by the "illegal blow".

Crappy point deduction = Bad reffing.
Bad reffing = Draw.
No deduction = Mousasi 29-28
Winner Gegard Mousasi.
I guess this is pretty much everybody's opinion. Sometimes the judging sucks and doesn't award the obvious winner with the victory.

What i don't get is how did Jardine think he won the fight? That's a load of crap. Mousasi said that he agrees with the decision and the broken Jardine talks about how he deserved the victory?

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I guess this is pretty much everybody's opinion. Sometimes the judging sucks and doesn't award the obvious winner with the victory.

What i don't get is how did Jardine think he won the fight? That's a load of crap. Mousasi said that he agrees with the decision and the broken Jardine talks about how he deserved the victory?
I doubt he'll think he won after he watches it. It's different in and right after the heat of battle.

When he watches the tape he'll realize he was gifted a draw by the scoring system.

An understandable "draw" but an injustice to Gegard Mousasi.


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I can see why this was a draw. If you give Jardine #2. Or more likely #1 + point deduction to Jardine(Which I did), and Mousasi gets 2 and 3. You end up with this score.

Whats more impressive than anything else in this entire fight was that on 9 days notice Jardine looked really great, all things considered. He looked better than he did against Liddell, which was his greatest achievement of all time.

Mousasi on the other hand, looked freakin terrible. The commentators called it "controlled aggression" I called it, "I don't even wanna f*ckin be here moroseness." Can the Mousasi hype die already?



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By the scoring system I understand the draw.

But it doesn't change the fact that Mousasi whooped Jardines ass all over that cage.

I'd have to say Mousasi won simply because there was no warning for the deduction and Jardine wasn't stunned by the "illegal blow".

Crappy point deduction = Bad reffing.
Bad reffing = Draw.
No deduction = Mousasi 29-28
Winner Gegard Mousasi.
O've said it again - this fight is the perfect example on showing the flaws of the 10 pts system.

If you look at the fight round by round and take the current judging system into consideration, you would have to agree on the draw.

But if you look at the fight as a *WHOLE* - then there is nor F*in way this fight should have been a draw, even with the point deduction.

Mousasi may not live up to his hype - and i believe he should join a serious camp - but he beat Jardine.

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It may have ended a draw , but Jardine had his ass handed to him for the majority of the 15 minutes and looked like a mess. Really does anyone actually think Mousasi drew with Jardine ? other than the stupid system it was a pretty bad beatdown and id count it as a win if i was a matchmaker.

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Hah, good old Mousasi had the hat trick...an illegal upkick, holding the cage, and a low blow. And homeboy still couldn't put away an already out of shape human highlight reel in Keith Jardine.

Yeeeah, this guy is one of the best in the world.

Hard to be the best in the world when you've knocked out nobody in your career, have shown absolute NO takedown defense, and terrible cardio. Give this guy a real fight, he'd get canned by the majority of good light heavies in the world.

Oh, and Jardine did get his ass kicked, but Mousasi cheated and Jardine won the first round. Don't glorify Mousasi for this draw because he "beat Jardine's ass" when in reality he showed no takedown defense, no cardio, and couldn't put away a guy that's nearly impossible to NOT knock out that took the fight on short notice and was sucking wind for 97% of this fight. I'll say it once again, overrated. Yeah, the "stupid system" that penalizes people for cheating. Lucky he didn't get 3 deductions.

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Just watched Rampage vs Jardine again.


Mousasi beat Jardine up about 100x worse, not even close.

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Jardine also didn't take the Jackson fight on what, 6 days notice? And didn't come out of shape...oh, and unlike Mousasi, Jackson actually beat Jardine.

If Mousasi could have finished Jardine, which by all means he should have with the way people on this site talk him up, you wouldn't have to be making excuses and revert to MMA math to help the overrated Mousasi's cause.
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