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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 04-10-2011, 01:41 PM Thread Starter
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Fightmetric has Mousasi dominating Jardine

Just checked the fightmetric.


http://blog.fightmetric.com/2011/04/...ghtmetric.html



Their effectiveness score was 409-104. That's one of the biggest gaps I've ever seen.


Striking was 146-21 overall. The best part is, Mousasi the sniper landed 122 to Jardine's head. Compare to Jardine landing 8 to the head.


For take-downs, Jardine attempted 13 and secured 6. Mousasi attempted 4 and secured 3.

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does this thing even do things round for round or just overall? cause the overall doesn't mean a damn thing when rounds are scored independently of eachother.
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Looking back on this Jardine came in late notice, fragile chin against good strikers, shown just his standup game for ages. To come into this fight with little preparation and show some evolution in his grappling skills and survive 15minutes is amazing to me.

But yeah, didn't think an illegal shot would have prevented Mousasi from winning this on the scorecards.
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does this thing even do things round for round or just overall? cause the overall doesn't mean a damn thing when rounds are scored independently of eachother.


Yes they do it round for round and overall. Round for round striking, grappling ec.


Mousasi smashed Jardine like a redhead stepchild in this fight. So Jardine got some take-downs, he didn't get a single sub attempt out of them and only TWO strikes! Mousasi landed 40+ strikes with his take-downs. Standing of course Jardine had nothing for Mousasi.

If Mousasi had got a warning for the upkick (which was more of a push), he would have won this fight no problem. Round 1 was close with MMA judging but you could still give it to Mousasi.

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No surprise here. It was one of the most one sided beatdowns I've seen. It's right up there with BJ/Diego and I was shocked when they announced the decision. Actually shocked doesn't really enough emphasis on it... it was one of these things that when you hear it... it makes you turn around thinking "**** it!" and just walk away. It was one of these things that renders you catatonic almost immediately.




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Round 1 was close with MMA judging but you could still give it to Mousasi.
I definitely think the takedowns sealed the round for Jardine here. Mousasi beat Jardine like a red headed step child in rounds 2 & 3 but as you said, Round 1 was a close MMA judged round and Jardine was taking down Mousasi like the dude only had 1 leg.
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That was one of the worst judged fights I've ever seen. Takedowns and doing nothing with it should not land a draw to someone who rocked you 3 rounds straight... with a point deduction or not.

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Why is everyone saying this is a Bullshit decision, according to the rules its easy to see why this was a draw, 10-8 first round for Jardine(obv the takedowns won him the round which i dont agree with, but thats MMA judging for ya), 10-9 10-9 for the 2nd and 3rd for Mousasi. To be fair Mousasi looked awful too IMO, he should of been able to finish that fight numerous times but couldnt and his wrestling is atrocious.

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Traditionally, takedowns have scored a lot higher than damage in MMA, so by that criterion it should indeed have been a draw.

However I've noticed a change in judging lately, at least in the UFC, where LnP has seemed to become a much less effective way of scoring points over the last year or so. So with the updated scoring method, which I think makes a lot more sense, Mousasi would have won 29-27.

All this of course assuming that the point deduction was justified.
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No surprise here. It was one of the most one sided beatdowns I've seen. It's right up there with BJ/Diego and I was shocked when they announced the decision. Actually shocked doesn't really enough emphasis on it... it was one of these things that when you hear it... it makes you turn around thinking "**** it!" and just walk away. It was one of these things that renders you catatonic almost immediately.
I cannot disagree more. If you go to the sticked thread you will see several of us, including myself, predicted the draw before it was even announced.

I was not shocked at all, in fact many of us watching the fight and discussing it live predicted it.

I don't see any way to give Mousasi round one when Jardine took hikm down 4/5 attempts. You simply have to give that round to Jardine based on MMA judging criteria.

There was also a point deducted in that round, so 10-8 Jardine.

There is also no justification for giving round 2 or 3 a 10-8 for Mousasi. Mousasi won clearly, but he didn't dominate to the point theyw ere 10-8 rounds.

I don't see any way to give this fight anything except a draw, and was baffled when the first scorecard was read 29-27 Mousasi.

Do I think it is BS and that Mousasi won the fight? yes, but you can't score it based on how you are feeling. You need to go by the criteria.


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That was one of the worst judged fights I've ever seen. Takedowns and doing nothing with it should not land a draw to someone who rocked you 3 rounds straight... with a point deduction or not.
It was just the first round. Mousasi simply got taken down too many times and did too little on the feet to take round 1. Add in the point deduction and Mousasi needed to finish that fight to win, but he was way too gassed..


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