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Old 04-15-2011, 03:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Women's TUF?

With Zuffa's recent acquisition of the Strikeforce brand, not only has MMA looked a lot more interesting with "Strikeforce vs. UFC" finally not being a fantasy, but fights like Diaz vs. Daley proved that the Strikeforce brand is a couple of notches below the UFC, if not on the same level. One thing that has been a cause for concern is our beloved Women's MMA. With the return of Carano after her time off after losing to Cyborg, things are looking ever more interesting again. And sure, we can all remember big papa Dana saying the infamous line: "Business as Usual," but one has to wonder if that is really the case, and if so, how long will it last? WFA was purchased by Zuffa, and all we really remember from that was included in Undisputed. Pride's acquisition went well if we take into account the wealth of fighters added to the UFC roster, but for the brand, we can't really say the same. Lastly, WEC had a great run, and though my knowledge of it is limited (as I could never catch the damn cards in between school and work), it all ended up innevitably folding into the UFC.

Enter Strikeforce.

We need to remember that Scott Coker is a wizard of a businessman, and can definitely make "chicken salad out of chicken shit," borrowing a phrase from good ole Lesnar's vocab for all you TUF fans out there. He was able to turn a regional show like Strikeforce into an international one, with only a limited team, and limited resources. Now that he has all access to the long arm of Zuffa, who knows what could happen?

I digress, as usual -- back to Women's MMA!

But enough about all that, let's get back to the topic at hand, Women's MMA. It's great to see the women do their thing out there, and in all honesty, they do a tremendous job. I for one, will admit that any of those women could whoop the (choose your favourite expletive) out of me, and also look good doing it. These women have talent, and more people should know about it. We all know how big papa Dana feels about Women's MMA; the talent pool doesn't run very deep. But surely he's not opposed to the concept. If we're having a tough time finding talent out there, why not just do what we've been doing for the male counterparts and do a Women's TUF? Now maybe a show all about Women's TUF wouldn't be able to stand on its own, but how about we do a throwback TUF where there are two different contracts up for grabs and have one contract for the males, and one contract for the females like back in the day? It'd make a great twist for TUF, add more diversified interest in the sport, and not to mention a great introduction to how competitive Women's MMA really is, in my opinion.

If this is a repeat thread, I apologize guys, I did a search and couldn't find anything on it. Let's open up the forum a bit and get your opinions on this because I, for one, think that it'd be a great idea. MMA has changed my life in a positive way, and despite the fact that I am addicted to it more than a crackhead is to crack, it has made me a better person in all aspects of my life, and not to mention gotten me in better shape! Let's stop hogging the benefits of the sport for ourselves, and show women that this sport is a lot more than just "two sweaty guys rolling around on the ground and trying to knock each other out," and that it's more about honour, respect, valour, and the better competitor -- not the better man.

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Old 04-15-2011, 03:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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well since zuffa dislikes womens mma i highly doubt this will happen
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I'd TiVo it and watch it. Granted I probably wouldn't bother watching the actual fights, but 16 ripped chicks forced to live in a house with booze and they can fight.. Might be good.
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well since zuffa dislikes womens mma i highly doubt this will happen
We've all seen Dana go back on his word whenever he uses the word "never" within it. Additionally, we've also heard him say that it's strictly due to the talent pool, not that it's a bad concept. What do you think of the idea, should big papa Dana change his stance on Women's MMA?

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I'd TiVo it and watch it. Granted I probably wouldn't bother watching the actual fights, but 16 ripped chicks forced to live in a house with booze and they can fight.. Might be good.
Yeah no kiddin eh! What if they were to have two separate sets like the old school TUF? What are your thoughts?
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I for one would really enjoy the show. The women are getting better and the fights at our local circuit are usually better than most of the guys.
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Don't see it happening

Don't want to see it happen. Let's be honest, there are maybe 5 good female fighters and the rest are pretty bad. So you want to put a bunch of unknown women on TUF? The fights would be ******* terrible not to mention the house drama would probably be worse than the guys.

I'm not saying Women can't fight, I'm just saying the division is not anywhere near deep enough to get 16 unknown fighters and put on a decent show. If you're a woman and you are a good fighter you're already in SF or Bellator most likely.
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Yeah no kiddin eh! What if they were to have two separate sets like the old school TUF? What are your thoughts?
Well it sounds really good... Well better like that, but after the fact where does it go?

Kinda like... yea you get into the ufc... where there are no female fighters, female rankings etc etc

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I for one would really enjoy the show. The women are getting better and the fights at our local circuit are usually better than most of the guys.
This is what I'm waiting for. I have seen one female fighter, who is deserving of the title "fighter" ever. Cyborg.

But if women can ever fight on any level near their male counterparts, I might actually watch it.

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Don't see it happening

Don't want to see it happen. Let's be honest, there are maybe 5 good female fighters and the rest are pretty bad. So you want to put a bunch of unknown women on TUF? The fights would be ******* terrible not to mention the house drama would probably be worse than the guys.

I'm not saying Women can't fight, I'm just saying the division is not anywhere near deep enough to get 16 unknown fighters and put on a decent show. If you're a woman and you are a good fighter you're already in SF or Bellator most likely.
five? I'm thinking cyborg, gina, starts with an R and megumi.. oh wait and that judo chick. okay 5
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Well it sounds really good... Well better like that, but after the fact where does it go?

Kinda like... yea you get into the ufc... where there are no female fighters, female rankings etc etc
Yeah man, it'd definitely be a work in progress. Or maybe even a Strikeforce version of TUF? That'd be pretty tight.

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five? I'm thinking cyborg, gina, starts with an R and megumi.. oh wait and that judo chick. okay 5
Add 2 on there, Marloes Coenen (who definitely needs some polishing, but is pretty damn good off her back), and Liz Carmouche (who pretty much kicked Marloes' ass for 4 rounds lol) -- good fight!
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i'd watch it if the house had 16 lesbians who were really hot and the house was full of alcohol
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