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Old 06-21-2011, 05:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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It would depend on which Josh showed up.

If it was a Josh that wanted to sub, Josh would take a UD. Both guys are good enough on the ground to avoid being subbed by the other and Josh would take it with top control and take downs.

If Josh wanted to GnP, he would probably stop Mir in the second or third.

However that's just my guess. Since Brock pounded Frank out from the half guard Frank seems to have really changed his game on the mat, from what I've seen in seminars and videos of his. And we haven't seen him on his back yet since UFC 100.
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Old 06-21-2011, 07:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm not sure why I get this feeling that most people would underrate Joshs submission game. I'm not saying that he's a grappling phenom like Werdum, Roger Gracie or something like that, but he's every bit capable of submitting even the most "respected" grapplers in MMA.

I bolded the important parts there. Josh is a good grappler. He might not win ADCC or anything like that, but in MMA he's good.
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think they may underrate his submission game because most people don't take catch wrestling seriously. In all honestly I consider myself a grappler so I consider it a legit sport. BJJ just took over when it comes to the popularity of the grappling game I guess.
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It could very well be. As said, I'm not saying he's a grappling phenom, but he knows how to put people in submission holds.
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That and he has relatively good striking. He is a well rounded fighter but he is getting old. The man is past his prime and an in his prime fighter like Overeem is a serious threat.
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Old 06-29-2011, 03:15 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Frank Mir and Josh Barnett are in my opinion the two most confident hws in mma. Theyre two intelligent and extremely well spoken fighters that would create the best pre fight promotion ever. Frank Mir claims Jiu Jitsu is the best and Josh Barnett claims catch wrestling is the best. That'd be one hell of a fight but I think Barnett would actually win it. What do you guys think?
Can i say something honest from the heart with out trolling?

there also two of the biggest douche bags in mma. (lol). MIr for his attitude.. and Josh.. I don't feel I have to explain why for Josh. It's there.

It would be interesting. There two quality contenders who are legends in their own minds. I'm down.
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Old 06-29-2011, 06:18 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Yeah, Barnett was kind've always that way. Mir turned out that way when he lost to Lesnar the first time. It only got worse from there.
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Old 06-29-2011, 08:23 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Can i say something honest from the heart with out trolling?

there also two of the biggest douche bags in mma. (lol). MIr for his attitude.. and Josh.. I don't feel I have to explain why for Josh. It's there.

It would be interesting. There two quality contenders who are legends in their own minds. I'm down.
Oh absolutely haha. They constantly preach about how good they are and logically break down fights like they literally know exactly what is going to happen. In their defense, they are usually right (with the exception of Mir predicting his rematch with Lesnar) but still their arrogance is on a different level. That promotion would be EPIC.
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Old 06-29-2011, 08:56 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Yeah, I wonder how hot the fireworks would get leading up to the match. Of course following the merger it's possible it could happen. But they certainly do logically break down things.
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