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MMAnWEED 06-18-2011 12:25 AM

How interesting would a Frank Mir vs Josh Barnett fight be?
Frank Mir and Josh Barnett are in my opinion the two most confident hws in mma. Theyre two intelligent and extremely well spoken fighters that would create the best pre fight promotion ever. Frank Mir claims Jiu Jitsu is the best and Josh Barnett claims catch wrestling is the best. That'd be one hell of a fight but I think Barnett would actually win it. What do you guys think?

kantowrestler 06-21-2011 02:05 AM

That would be a good fight. Both men are heavyweight fighters with submissions and wrestling as a base. Fireworks!

Hammerlock2.0 06-21-2011 03:28 AM

It would be interesting to see Barnett put Mir on his back and pound him out without any catch wrestling whatsoever.

oldfan 06-21-2011 03:34 AM

I've wanted to see that fight since Mir's debut with his "oooh look at me I'm a heavy weight that moves like a light weight on the ground" schtick.

I always thought Josh would take it easily.

Calibretto9 06-21-2011 09:06 AM

I give Josh the definitive advantage. That being said, if Frank could stuff the takedown attempts his boxing has actually gotten pretty good and Barnett doesn't really have the greatest hands or standup. So if it stayed standing I say Mir knocks him silly. More likely though is Barnett gets the takedown and proves he's better on the ground.

osmium 06-21-2011 10:02 AM

Frank Mir would wreck him. Barnett doesn't have the skills to expose Mir's weaknesses Mir isn't getting finished with an arm triangle inside mount or an americana. The only way Barnett wins is via decision and I think that is highly unlikely since Mir is going to have one of if not the most dangerous offensive HW guards he has ever faced in both BJJ and MMA and will completely tool him standing. First round sub for Mir after he rocks him badly standing.

Dr Gonzo 06-21-2011 11:55 AM

The more I think about this fight, the more interesting it becomes. Barnett has a great top game. But then Mir has a great guard. Mir has good boxing but then Barnett has good takedowns.

To concur with other posters, Mir has the superior striking. Barnett would have to let Mir come to him and counter his boxing with a few feints to a takedown. I feel if Barnett charged Frank, Mir would use his footwork to out manoeuvre Josh, setting up a takedown of his own or maybe a boxing combo.

If Barnett does get Mir down, then he'll pretty much have to do what Chael Sonnen almost did against Silva. Keep him down, wear him down using strikes. Attempting a sub on Mir would be an exercise in futility. If Barnett can stay on Mir during the whole 3 rounds then he could swing a Decision win.

If Barnett doesn't get Mir down and the fight remains standing through-out the fight or if Frank takes Josh down, then I see Frank Mir winning via sub or TKO.

Forgot for a second that this fight isn't actualy happening then!

oldfan 06-21-2011 12:32 PM

Y'all underestimate josh's striking. A lot.

He won't be able to take bigfoot down in the finals. He'll still win.

KillerShark1985 06-21-2011 01:31 PM

Would be a interesting fight no doubt, I would be interested in that fight for sure.

I would not write Mir off in fact he would pose much more of a threat than Rogers did on the ground the other night, or at least have much better defense against the TD's.

But saying that would be interesting to see him fight Werdum as well, I watched an interview with Barnett after the Fedor/Werdum fight and I could not agree with what Barnett had to say more when he said something like "Werdum may want to engage on the ground but he would regret it if I was on top", if that's statement turned out to be or not, that's the attitude every fighter in MMA needs these days.

MMAnWEED 06-21-2011 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by oldfan (Post 1429323)
Y'all underestimate josh's striking. A lot.

He won't be able to take bigfoot down in the finals. He'll still win.

Agreed. Josh is definitely not the flashiest striker but he is a lot more technically savvy than most would think. He is very basic with his striking but it is effective enough to be competitive with the best in the world. Barnett knocked out Pedro Rizzo who is the only man to ever knock him out which was 10 years ago so that should show something.

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