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Old 06-21-2011, 05:20 PM   #21 (permalink)
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hahaha this looks like an extremely horny gay man who is on ecstasy

"mhmm get on top of me big boy.. why dont you work some of that ground and pound on top of me? oh hold me close tiny dancer!!!"

lol not a jab at jiu jitsu just werdum xD
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Old 06-21-2011, 09:02 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Guys like this who can fight from any position and have the ability to decide that position are rare and no one who fights them has any right to complain about it. Become a better fighter or shut up don't act like a moron and demand that your opponent help you win the fight.
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:40 AM   #23 (permalink)
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werdum is an average heavyweight, everyone boosted him up the rankings because he beat fedor who went crazy and got caught in 2 triangles but only escaped one, silva is boosted to number 3! because he beat a much smaller fedor who was stopped by doctors. overeem had a bad night and werdum proved the point that he is a one dimensional joke who has nothing but bjj which didnt work in the 3rd round. that said i am looking forward with the best match in the tournament segei-barnett and hopefully overeem knocks bigfoots now overrated and big mouth down the ladder again
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Old 06-22-2011, 11:21 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Wow. You don't read the guys post and then go on a pointless rant that may or may not have anything to do with what the OP said.

Probably the most immature post you can make on a forum. At least trolls have a purpose. I don't neg rep often, but this totally deserves it. Unproductive post that actually detracts from the discussion rather than adds to it.
The most immature post on the forum was the bloody first one in this thread. Telling all the "fcking homos" to "go hug their Dana White blankets" just for saying that Overeem's performance does not indicate he's a top 5 HW? GTFO with that shit.

FYI I think you're a blind fool for calling my reply "trolling" and defending the guy who blanket insults all non-overeem-cultists like himself. If he throws insults out he should be prepared to receive them, and you should be too if you're dumb enough to take the instigator's side in this.

And you deluded cultists can explain it to yourself however you want, fact is Overeem's performance was bad and does not compare to the likes of JDS and Cain's recent performances. To me all this rationalizing is just deja vu for all the excuses after Shogun's beatdown by Bones, and serves to extend my understanding of the limits of bandwagon delusion.
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Old 06-22-2011, 11:31 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Wasn't gonna watch the fight due to the negative responses on here but I'm intrigued now. Hope its worth it.
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werdum is an average heavyweight, everyone boosted him up the rankings because he beat fedor who went crazy and got caught in 2 triangles but only escaped one, silva is boosted to number 3! because he beat a much smaller fedor who was stopped by doctors. overeem had a bad night and werdum proved the point that he is a one dimensional joke who has nothing but bjj which didnt work in the 3rd round. that said i am looking forward with the best match in the tournament segei-barnett and hopefully overeem knocks bigfoots now overrated and big mouth down the ladder again
Bigfoot is overrated but he is actually getting better unlike Werdum and has a better chance of beating more good fighters than Werdum. He isn't a top 5 HW but I would be shocked if guys like Nelson and Schaub beat him and not so much with Werdum. The Reem will crush him but I think Bigfoot beats both Barnett and Sergei. I would give Bigfoot like a 25% chance against Mir and Werdum a 0% chance.

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And you deluded cultists can explain it to yourself however you want, fact is Overeem's performance was bad and does not compare to the likes of JDS and Cain's recent performances. To me all this rationalizing is just deja vu for all the excuses after Shogun's beatdown by Bones, and serves to extend my understanding of the limits of bandwagon delusion.
Carwin was standing still eating punches for 3 rounds. If Werdum had done that the fight wouldn't have lasted 3 minutes.

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The most immature post on the forum was the bloody first one in this thread. Telling all the "fcking homos" to "go hug their Dana White blankets" just for saying that Overeem's performance does not indicate he's a top 5 HW? GTFO with that shit.
I'm gonna be honest, I was really drunk and somehow missed the line you are referring to. Not really gonna make any excuses, that is pretty bad. Sorry.

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FYI I think you're a blind fool for calling my reply "trolling" and defending the guy who blanket insults all non-overeem-cultists like himself. If he throws insults out he should be prepared to receive them, and you should be too if you're dumb enough to take the instigator's side in this.
I actually said at least trolls have a point, they take a side. As in you didn't add to the discussion you just insulted the OP. I realize now that I read it too quickly and perhaps while too intoxicated lol.

As far as taking his side I made it clear how I feel in my first post.

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And you deluded cultists can explain it to yourself however you want, fact is Overeem's performance was bad and does not compare to the likes of JDS and Cain's recent performances. To me all this rationalizing is just deja vu for all the excuses after Shogun's beatdown by Bones, and serves to extend my understanding of the limits of bandwagon delusion.
I believe Overeem was robbed of the opportunity to have a good performance. You can call me a cultist but I can't imagine how I would put together successful combinations when every time I land so much as a decent jab my opponents tries to pull guard (unsuccessfully).

It wasn't a good performance, but it wasn't his fault. It isn't like this is the first time Werdum has made a fight painful to watch. Arlovski vs Werdum was one of the worst fights of all time.
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:06 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I'm gonna be honest, I was really drunk and somehow missed the line you are referring to. Not really gonna make any excuses, that is pretty bad. Sorry.



I actually said at least trolls have a point, they take a side. As in you didn't add to the discussion you just insulted the OP. I realize now that I read it too quickly and perhaps while too intoxicated lol.

As far as taking his side I made it clear how I feel in my first post.



I believe Overeem was robbed of the opportunity to have a good performance. You can call me a cultist but I can't imagine how I would put together successful combinations when every time I land so much as a decent jab my opponents tries to pull guard (unsuccessfully).

It wasn't a good performance, but it wasn't his fault. It isn't like this is the first time Werdum has made a fight painful to watch. Arlovski vs Werdum was one of the worst fights of all time.
Well that's ok then, I'm also sorry for my behavior. Should've figured out from your reply that you might've missed those parts of the original post.

It's true that it wasn't all Overeem's fault that he wasn't allowed to fight his game, same way Anderson isn't any less of a deadly fighter for the messups that were the Leites and Maia fights. Buttflops are an embarrassment to the sport and BJJ IMO, and should be point deducted for repeated offences. You want to submit a guy, you get him down first, don't expect him to hop in between your legs as charity.

But there was a difference between the Anderson fights and Overeem's performance too ... in the moments that Anderson had to play his game, he completely outclassed his opponents. Overeem however looked tentative and actually the worse of the two, even in his so called element.

It's a fact that this was his first top 10 fight since the ubereem hype exploded, and it was quite mediocre. It's also a fact that all other top 10 fights in his MMA career (Chuck, Shogun 1 & 2, Lil Nog 1 & 2, Arona, Kharitonov, Werdum 1) , he has lost quite handily.

So I'm not gonna make any more derisive posts, but I will say I'm waiting for his next MMA fight against another top tenner (Bigfoot counts I think) before I buy his hype. I'm not going to base my opinion of him on his performance in a vastly different sport of kickboxing.
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