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**Ape City** · 06-24-2011, 03:25 PM

If Bigfoot tries to stand with Overeem he is gonna get tkod. I bet Bigfoots plan is to be more aggressive with the takedowns, but I think he will fail and get picked apart on the feet.

I just re-watched Overeem Werdum for a third time and No Mercy is right, Werdum had a couple flurries early in the second and a few random strikes in the third but nearly everything he landed was sloppy punches tossed out there in attempts to set up a take-down or pull guard. Nearly everything Overeem landed had power behind it.

**No_Mercy** · 06-24-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SM33

Good interview, I like Silva in this fight. I think he'll smother Reem, he'll weather some shots to do it but he will make it a scrap. Werdum was landing combos on Reem and pushing him back, so Silva can definately do this and has heavier hands. Silva will consistantly attack here there and everywhere, and Reem will deteriorate even if he does look untouchable in the first.

Silva by (T)KO.

That is a distinct possibility cuz he can actually take heavy blows. His cranium is probably 50 lbs which is five times over the normal mass and bone density if you will...haha.

BUT I gotta go with Overeem still with his crisp striking and new found power. Again there's not too many out there who can KO Silva outright or have the power behind it; JDS, Carwin, Sergei, and of course Ubereem. Man even Fedor's shots didn't seem to phase em in their exchange. I think that's why in the 2nd Fedor just went BALLZ OUT and went for broke...but Silva somehow anticipated it and took him down. After that it was quite painful to watch. A big lumbering "giant" slamming down punches on a valiant fighter.

My analysis is that Overeem will TKO Silva by a left hook to the liver or knee.

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Originally Posted by Ape City

If Bigfoot tries to stand with Overeem he is gonna get tkod. I bet Bigfoots plan is to be more aggressive with the takedowns, but I think he will fail and get picked apart on the feet.

I just re-watched Overeem Werdum for a third time and No Mercy is right, Werdum had a couple flurries early in the second and a few random strikes in the third but nearly everything he landed was sloppy punches tossed out there in attempts to set up a take-down or pull guard. Nearly everything Overeem landed had power behind it.

Yah it was interesting because what I saw the 2nd time around was very different from the 1st. We were all eager and anticipating the KO or sub that we overlooked the subtle things. I wrote a whole analysis on it. To sum it up basically what Ape wrote as well. Plus Overeem used his strength to push Werdum down repeatedly which would be considered a takedown + top control. No different than a Lay Praynard style of fighting or Rich "Bedtime" Story's wall and stall tactic except Overeem had to do it against an esteemed grappler whom he lost already in the past. I think it was an intelligent fight. It was pretty tactical although not too pleasant to watch for the casual viewers and of course for the ones who wanted to see someone go comatose...lolz!

They will meet again a 3rd time and that will be decisive.

*Werdum already beat Big Foot and Fedor. He could fight Barnett, Sergei, or the winner/runner up and get an instant title shot. Plus there's five rounds so that should be interesting.

kantowrestler · 06-24-2011, 08:56 PM

Well a thick skull is nothing if you get hit on the chin. And let us remember Griggs gave Bigfoot a run for his money. Overeem just needs to hit the right part of Bigfoot's chin and it's over.

**Ape City** · 06-24-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by No_Mercy

Yah it was interesting because what I saw the 2nd time around was very different from the 1st. We were all eager and anticipating the KO or sub that we overlooked the subtle things. I wrote a whole analysis on it. To sum it up basically what Ape wrote as well. Plus Overeem used his strength to push Werdum down repeatedly which would be considered a takedown + top control. No different than a Lay Praynard style of fighting or Rich "Bedtime" Story's wall and stall tactic except Overeem had to do it against an esteemed grappler whom he lost already in the past. I think it was an intelligent fight. It was pretty tactical although not too pleasant to watch for the casual viewers and of course for the ones who wanted to see someone go comatose...lolz!

They will meet again a 3rd time and that will be decisive.

*Werdum already beat Big Foot and Fedor. He could fight Barnett, Sergei, or the winner/runner up and get an instant title shot. Plus there's five rounds so that should be interesting.

The "push-downs" if you will should certainly be considered the same as taking your opponent down (unless Werdum was trying to pull guard of course). Just like when Werdum tripped Overeem it is a takedown even though it was the result of a strike.

I agree that it was a very tactical fight with neither man letting their emotions get the better of them. Unfortunately for Werdum fights start on the feet and get reset to a standing position.

I found the fight was exciting until Werdum started relying on pulling guard, which made Overeem more cautious and also unable to put combos together. By the mid third round I felt like I was falling asleep all three times I watched the fight lol.

repped ya (agreed).

kantowrestler · 06-24-2011, 11:51 PM

Werdum went to a ground game which Overeem didn't take the bait with. The few times Werdum did take him down he got lucky. It was certainly a fight where both men didn't get emotional.

**No_Mercy** · 06-25-2011, 02:05 AM

I was thinking that fight could have ended up like Crocop vs Big Nog. Man was he beating the lights out of em til he over committed and fell into the armbar. Mind you Overeem already lost to em before so that certainly played a major factor. The way I see it, he could have went ballz out and got submitted then everybody would have said he came in with a "dumb game plan." I love how the forums work. In this case he was too "tentative," but guess what he still won and now we get to see him vs Big Foot. I really want to see if Overeem can KO em. When Griggs hit em it seemed to only momentarily phase em...hahah.

If anybody can it's THE REEM!

kantowrestler · 06-25-2011, 04:14 AM

I think Overeem learned from his first fight with Werdum and decided not to play Werdum's game. Personally I don't think Overeem was overattentive but was cautious in not playing his game. And I agree that if anyone can KO Bigfoot it's Overeem.