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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 06-27-2011, 10:31 PM Thread Starter
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Alistair Overeem overrated?

Ive been hearing alot of hype over this guy. "Hes a beast" "Hes unstopable" No doubt hes done alot elsewhere but I really dont see him making all that much of an impact if he ever actually come over to the UFC. The only person that hes beat worth mentioning is Fabricio Werdum. What do you guys think?
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1. Wrong Forum

2. If you are hearing Overeem is unstoppable you may want to seek the advice of a medical professional. As you clearly either hearing voices in your head that aren't there or seeing things that don't exist.
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1. Wrong Forum

2. If you are hearing Overeem is unstoppable you may want to seek the advice of a medical professional. As you clearly either hearing voices in your head that aren't there or seeing things that don't exist.
Lolz ---> #2. That's a bit harsh.

My answer is no (he's a champ in three different orgs), but guess we'll have to see em against Big Foot.
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1. Wrong Forum

2. If you are hearing Overeem is unstoppable you may want to seek the advice of a medical professional. As you clearly either hearing voices in your head that aren't there or seeing things that don't exist.
1.Im sorry if I posted in the wrong forum. I was trying to start a discussion on how Overeem would do if he came to the UFC.

2. You dont have to insult me. Theres no need for it.
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It depends on who you ask really. The Reem supporters believe his last fight was just an off night and his detractors think it was a sign of things to come.

Personally, after the last fight I don't think he'll be a UFC champion. Especially after the merger happens. Top 3-5 at best and 7-9 at worst would be my guess.
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Hey the reem is a beast, don't let his last fight fool you. Until he loses the strikeforce belt then we can judge. As it stands ring now his size and skills puts him above the rest. The man did have a long lay off from the change, he did not lose. Yes it was a bad performance but at the end of the day everyone is entitle to one of those matches. Before the werdum fight he was destroying everybody. If he does have another bad performance against big foot then i would say he is overrated, but as of right now he is a beast and easily a top 3 hw in the world.
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I've always thought he's dangerous, but until he starts fighting the top guys again (he lost to them before) i'll reserve judgment. The thing that worries me with him is that he stands in front of strikes like he doesn't care, thats hurt him before, and when he fights these young bucks who run the UFC, it's different than the older/second tier guys he's been facing.

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I've always thought he's dangerous, but until he starts fighting the top guys again (he lost to them before) i'll reserve judgment. The thing that worries me with him is that he stands in front of strikes like he doesn't care, thats hurt him before, and when he fights these young bucks who run the UFC, it's different than the older/second tier guys he's been facing.
i agree it did hurt him before but in his own words the difference from before and now is 40 pounds of muscles or so. That kind of shit will make any man feel invincible.
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2. You dont have to insult me. Theres no need for it.
I don't mean to insult you, but to me this topic is trolling on several fronts.

To begin with this is hardly an original thought. Next to Brock Lesnar and maybe Frank Mir, Overeem is the most disrespected and scrutinized HW on the internet. To take the common line of thinking and then profess the opposite point of view claiming the people are calling him unstoppable is ridiculous.

I apologize if you took offense, had this popped up in the right forum I wouldn't have gotten angry. But I feel like this is a transparent flame baiting thread and I really don't like it.
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He is a beast. But if anyone says he's unstoppable, don't take it seriously, and don't think all Alistair fans think so. I'm a huge Alistair fan, but thinking he's unstoppable and demi-god is blatantly wrong.

He's a good to great fighter, and he's almost always very exciting to watch. Why can't we leave it at that?

Rankings are IMO pretty retarded in the first place. Rankings work with soccer, hockey and other sports where the guys face off against all other teams several times. That's when it works. Rankings in a sport where a fighter fights maybe against 1-5% of the total of contestants, there's really no way to tell if a fighter should be ranked 1, 4, 5 or even 7, based on his skills and the skills of his foes. Simply put, rankings are fun to look at and debate, but there's really no rock solid foundation for them.

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I don't mean to insult you, but to me this topic is trolling on several fronts.

To begin with this is hardly an original thought. Next to Brock Lesnar and maybe Frank Mir, Overeem is the most disrespected and scrutinized HW on the internet. To take the common line of thinking and then profess the opposite point of view claiming the people are calling him unstoppable is ridiculous.

I apologize if you took offense, had this popped up in the right forum I wouldn't have gotten angry. But I feel like this is a transparent flame baiting thread and I really don't like it.
I'm kind of agreeing here. Not about the posting in the wrong forum (people can make honest mistakes), but about the part that Alistair is one of the more hated MMA fighters out there. Apart from a small Alistair war wagon thread on Sherdog, the majority of the topics I have seen about him (from MMA fans) is hate or some kind of underrating based on overrating. Overrating that's very rare.

I've seen more people writing him off with things like "He'd never make it in the UFC" or "He's just a can smasher - look at his record, he hasn't beaten anyone yet", than I've seen people hyping him off the roof.
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