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Old 07-13-2011, 07:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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In most fights the other fighter usually would let the ref know that his opponent is tapping. He didn't say a word. And his camp didn't kick off enough to let the ref know. The ref is obviously a retard but the blame should be shared a little more.
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:17 AM   #22 (permalink)
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In most fights the other fighter usually would let the ref know that his opponent is tapping. He didn't say a word. And his camp didn't kick off enough to let the ref know. The ref is obviously a retard but the blame should be shared a little more.
Lolololol wtf... how should the blame be shared?? The tap is right in-front of the refs face. If someone has to tell him that then he has no business being in there.

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I said the blame should be shared a 'little' more. I agree, the buck stops with the ref at all times. His decision is final. And a fighter should never stop until the ref says so. But come on. The fighter on top must have felt those taps and I've seen plenty of instances where the fighter lets the ref know.

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Never mentioned once that the ref did have any business being in there.

So you just like going round trying to pick apart other peoples posts with out adding anything of value yourself? Just type LoL lots of times and follow it up with some silly picture. Cool man.
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I don't think the fighter shares any blame. It's not his job to tell the ref the fighter is tapping. It's the ref's job to see it. I actually think it's a bad idea for fighters to tell refs their opponent just tapped.

They shouldn't be influencing reffing of the fights that way. I also get annoyed when I see fighters look or yell at the ref while they've got a sub locked in or are landing GnP, trying to get the ref to stop the fight. Focus on finishing your opponent and let the ref handle the stoppages.
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I don't think the fighter shares any blame. It's not his job to tell the ref the fighter is tapping. It's the ref's job to see it. I actually think it's a bad idea for fighters to tell refs their opponent just tapped.

They shouldn't be influencing reffing of the fights that way. I also get annoyed when I see fighters look or yell at the ref while they've got a sub locked in or are landing GnP, trying to get the ref to stop the fight. Focus on finishing your opponent and let the ref handle the stoppages.
Couldnt put it better.
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:01 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I don't think the fighter shares any blame. It's not his job to tell the ref the fighter is tapping. It's the ref's job to see it. I actually think it's a bad idea for fighters to tell refs their opponent just tapped.

They shouldn't be influencing reffing of the fights that way. I also get annoyed when I see fighters look or yell at the ref while they've got a sub locked in or are landing GnP, trying to get the ref to stop the fight. Focus on finishing your opponent and let the ref handle the stoppages.
I understand what your saying. I know its not the fighters job to be telling the ref that his opponent is tapping. The issue im attempting to convey here is morality. When does it come in to play? Chokes are such dangerous moves that if held for a few sconds too long can cause brain damage. If I was the top fighter, I would at least give the ref a look to see what the hell hes playing at. Unless there was a underlying rivalry going on between the fighters? The top fighter doesn't even seem to notice the frantic tapping.

That being said. I don't want to see any changes in rules or anything. There can be only one person in charge during the fight and it always has to be the ref. What I was pondering out loud was when does a fighter share any responsibilty? When his opponent is dead? Its quite dangerous this fight game, I guess that the main thing that we can take from this is that the whole regulation of refereeing has to be looked at again. Too many times over the past few years have we seen MONUMENTAL reffing mistakes. Both in major and minor fights. Referees need to be put through much more stringent tests to clarify how good these guys actually are.

As for this ref. No more training or testing can help this dude.
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:30 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I thought being choked out was just another thing, not a big deal at all you just go out (like a KO) until I actually had a friend choke me out. It's terrifying the first time. You're literally panicking and you think you're dying. Granted that feeling doesn't persist after you have been choked out a few times maybe? But when you tap and noone answers, the feeling surely comes back.
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Yeah that was hard to watch,.... What a fail
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Old 07-13-2011, 04:37 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I dont know about anyone else, but things like that would make me shit scared to fight again, well either that or i would start seriously working hard on my sub defense lol. But that ref shouldnt have a job right now, and if he does then MMA should be banned where ever that took place until its sorted out, because that is totally unacceptable. I mean what if the guy just kept on squeezing? he would be dead simple as that, its just disgusting to see that.
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