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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-21-2007, 11:20 AM Thread Starter
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Will SAMBO Be The New BJJ Someday?

SAMBO is a very effective fighting style that few people use. Even though few people use it it happens to be the fighting style of the most succesful fighter in the world. Fedor said himself it makes it easier for him in fights since so few people know about SAMBO.

Now in the early days of the UFC it was a very simliar situation with BJJ. Royce Gracie was the undefeated champion similar to the way Fedor is now, and at that time very few people new his fighting style and he just dominated them with pure BJJ.

Now my question is, in say 10 years from now will everyone know SAMBO as everyone know BJJ today? Will people say Fedor was only successful as he was in his time beacsue no one knew SAMBO, as people say today about Gracie and his JJ?

Dont get me wrong, I acknowledge that Fedor is a very complete fighter and absolutly great. Im not implying he is as one dimensional as Gracie was but this is just a thought.

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I've thought about this a lot and I think BJJ had such a profound effect because it has its TIME and PLACE and the american psyche.

I'm not discrediting BJJ at all. I personally train BJJ and would never leave it for another martial art. But I think the name Jiu Jitsu stikes a certain tone in the American mind. Americans simply dont know about Sambo yet.. So I think as the MMA game develops people will come to a realization about the breadth of martial arts.

No, I dont think Sambo will become the new rage.
But I do think people will realize they have a choice when it comes to groundfighting.

I think Brazilian Jiu Jitsu has grown in popularity primariy because of its effectiveness, but something people need to consider is that the brazilians are some of the warmest, freindliest people on this planet and that is what keeps their academys filled.
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Sambo does bare alot of similarities to other fighting styles, so its not like other fighters don't know whats going on. Its also the age of the internet, so everyone knows everything about everything. Before the internet people only really knew about the fighting style they tought down the road.
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SAMBO is a very effective fighting style that few people use. Even though few people use it it happens to be the fighting style of the most succesful fighter in the world. Fedor said himself it makes it easier for him in fights since so few people know about SAMBO.

Now in the early days of the UFC it was a very simliar situation with BJJ. Royce Gracie was the undefeated champion similar to the way Fedor is now, and at that time very few people new his fighting style and he just dominated them with pure BJJ.

Now my question is, in say 10 years from now will everyone know SAMBO as everyone know BJJ today? Will people say Fedor was only successful as he was in his time beacsue no one knew SAMBO, as people say today about Gracie and his JJ?

Dont get me wrong, I acknowledge that Fedor is a very complete fighter and absolutly great. Im not implying he is as one dimensional as Gracie was but this is just a thought.

SAMBO is the $HIT. ANd I think anyone practicing for fun or self defense should learn Sambo...it is the cloest thing there is to a mixed martial art IMO. Someone growing up learning sambo from the beginning would have the easiest time adjusting to mma, as opposed to pure BJJ or wrestling but I don't think it has a huge place in MMA yet and I'll explain why.


Most people coming into MMA are at the top of what they do, whether it be wrestling/BJJ/Boxing/Kickboxing. When you are an amazing wrestler you should learn as much BJJ as you can as well as striking...to learn sambo would be a disadvantage because what u need to know explicitly is BJJ. WHat I'm saying is that Sambo is the most well rounded and best if its your foundation, but most MMA fighters already have a foundation so they need to learn specific other techniques to add to their repotoire.

Then if you get into the argument that people who wanna do MMA should train Sambo from the begininng, I can always say "no...they should train MMA". (As in, they should train in everything).

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I train in Sambo and if you know it, it's definitely a huge advantage. I think eventually every fighter will have to know it to stand a chance but for know it's a Russian exclusive in MMA.
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The biggest difference is that MMA was started for the soul purpose of showing people how effective BJJ is. I don't think Sambo is that syndicated and that organized. As a style, I would go as far as to say that Sambo is already passing BJJ as a something that MMA fighters need to know if they want to make the top ten.

Sambo gets alot of attention because the undisputed heavyweight king is a sambo practitioner. Over the next few years it wouldn't surprise me if we see 4 or 5 sambo practitioners in the top ten heavyweights, beyond the 2 that we have now in Fedor and Aleks. But even Josh Barnett uses some leglocks that they teach in Sambo, he just calls it something else.

I definitely think that Sambo will be the next major MMA style.



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Could someone explain the difference between bjj and sambo. Because watching Fedor's submission game and the way he transitions into his submissions, it looks very similar to bjj. For instance when Fedor transitioned from his back and rolled Coleman and got the armbar that looked no different than something Nog would do. Can someone explain. Does Sambo teach striking techniques or is it mainly a grappling martial art??




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I'm pretty sure its subs, striking and throws.
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lets not split hairs here
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post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-23-2007, 04:13 AM
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Yeah can someone please explain the main differences between Sambo and BJJ?

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