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Old 07-30-2011, 06:26 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Fedor took an epic beating on the ground, his face was ground and pounded into mush by BigFoot and you're trying to say that Silva's GNP isn't aggressive and that Fedor's face always looks that bad, posting a picture of his face looking perfectly fine.

Fedor cuts easily, but his face has never looked as bad as it did after the Bigfoot fight.
That pic ( posted below) i posted is after the werdum fight, u can see some bumps and bruises after the werdum fight. I'm just trying to say he is one of those fighters that gets cut and bruise easily. Aside from the eye, that nose has been a problem for fedor for years. Just look at the rogers fight how badly it was damage.
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Old 07-30-2011, 06:32 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Hold on are people actually thinking he got cut from strikeforce because of those reasons? Lol this has smoke screen written all over it. This is like a script from a soap opera so that the reem can join the ufc.
This. It has to be.

I refuse to believe a promotion could be so incompetent to release it's CURRENT champion...and it's biggest draw.
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Old 07-30-2011, 06:33 AM   #43 (permalink)
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This. It has to be.

I refuse to believe a promotion could be so incompetent to release it's CURRENT champion...and it's biggest draw.
But.....he hurt his wee toe
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Old 07-30-2011, 07:32 AM   #44 (permalink)
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This. It has to be.

I refuse to believe a promotion could be so incompetent to release it's CURRENT champion...and it's biggest draw.
Even if that is true it still sucks. I would have like to have seen Silva vs. Overeem and or Overeem vs Barnett or Khrantonov 3 (Spelling).
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Old 07-30-2011, 07:34 AM   #45 (permalink)
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As I understand it, Dana and co do have the overall say on fighters in SF, although Dana has stayed out of it until now. If Reem was getting cut, you'd think Dana would have been involved. Otherwise, it would have been Coker's decision and he's basically given Overeem to the UFC which seems completely pointless.

Strange situation, but I think Overeem is overhyped anyway, Cain would handle him and so would JDS.
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Old 07-30-2011, 08:12 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I've heard Alistair say that if Dana wants him he'll have to pay up. Like I said he'll end up in the UFC, but I thought that about Fedor as well. This just seems like something that isn't getting done overnight.
But Overeem is smarter than Emelianenko businesswise I guess, so it's more probable to see Overeem in the UFC soon than it was with Emelianenko. And probably it was also not the dumbest move to leave the tournament. Overeem had nothing really to win there. Strikeforce is going to fold sooner or later. With his "not as impressive win as thought before" win over Werdum it was smarter step out of the tournament, keeping his market value which wouldn't have gone up significantly with a win over Silva, because he is champ already, but would have dropped considerably with a loss. Winning the tournament would have put him probably in the best spot for negotiations with the UFC, but with still two strong opponents ahead that would also be a risky bet. So leaving now is much safer for his business and with his market value he is still in a good position for negotiations.

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Why couldn't Brock do exactly the same thing as Bigfoot did?
Lesnar is without doubt a better wrestler than Silva and probably the stronger athlete, so I would definitely see his chances to outmuscle Emelianenko. But Silva is a BJJ black belt and more important isn't afraid of taking a punch to the face. He just ate Emelianenko's shots (which have dropped many before) without any noteworthy reaction, but I guess most of us remember Lesnar's reaction to Carwin's and Velasquez' punches.

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is that why mark hunt,brett rogers and silva have put him on his arse? lets be real here, you love fedor and you hate brock which is why you cant admit that brock just gorilla smash fedor into a pulp like bigfoot did, brock is way better than bigfoot in everything but stand up but brock doesnt have to stand with fedor and would take him down straight away
No, Lesnar is not better than Silva in everything but stand up. Lesner is the better Wrestler, which gives him an advantage in the take down department in particular. And he is possibly the stronger athlete, but Silva is a BJJ black belt and his submission game is probably not even in sight for Lesnar. Silva's striking is better and most important, Lesnar crumbles when he gets hit hard in the face.

So Lesnar is without doubt a beast when he can overpower his opponent, but hasn't the mentality to face real adversary.
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Old 07-30-2011, 10:13 AM   #47 (permalink)
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This. It has to be.

I refuse to believe a promotion could be so incompetent to release it's CURRENT champion...and it's biggest draw.
He virtually refused to defend his belt, fights no remotely credibly opponents until Werdum and then puts on a crappy (to most fans) fight and then delays their big tournament for a trivial injury (allegedly). Maybe they are just sick of him.

I'm not ruling out this being a set up to get him into the UFC but I can also see it being even simpler; that he is a pain in the ass and they are tired of it.
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I would offer to make a bet but your demands would be so confusing and ridiculous that it would end up falling through I'm afraid.

Brock would have beat Fedor in his debut had they been matched up
Haha that gave me my morning laugh of the day.


Lesnar would get lit up on his feet so bad he'd look like a christmas tree

All it would take is one combo to make Brock go running for the hills, he can't take any sort of punches and he would wilt under the pressure.
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:38 AM   #49 (permalink)
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silvas GNP defiantly is aggressive however, brocks is way more stronger and effective and controlling, bigfoot doesnt have good wrestling either just decent wall and falling for his oppnents
Only difference is, if Fedor landed a punch, Brock would fetal position and give up.
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Haha that gave me my morning laugh of the day.


Lesnar would get lit up on his feet so bad he'd look like a christmas tree

All it would take is one combo to make Brock go running for the hills, he can't take any sort of punches and he would wilt under the pressure.
That fight would be on the feet until Fedor threw a punch. After that, it's takedown time.
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