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post #61 of 75 (permalink) Old 07-30-2011, 06:32 PM
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Like many SF fighters, Toevereem thinks he is bigger than the sport. He claims he can't fight because of a broken toe, then he claims it's because his trainers are on vacation.

He then proceeds to act like a Diva and say how boxing is a bigger sport and he'd love to fight Klitchko. Then he signs to fight a can in Russia.

I had high hopes for Reem until this BS.

He was canned because he's a diva who won't commit to Zuffa. Letting him continue in the tournament when he could bail on them or blackmail them to pay him huge $$ for the finals would be stupid.

If Zuffa was planning on sending him to the UFC, they could have done what they did with Nick Diaz.

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post #62 of 75 (permalink) Old 07-30-2011, 07:14 PM
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Pretty sure he couldnt make the timeline they gave him cuz he has to cycle his roids correctly lol

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post #63 of 75 (permalink) Old 07-30-2011, 09:29 PM
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This is complete bull sh1t, this is Zuffa playing some back hand I can feel it, to fcuk up SF soemhow and continue to rope the fighters they want from the promotion to the UFC, Zuffa are full of sh1t I dont buy there excuses half the time, I don't buy the Lesnar illness bull sh1t, the ring girls where fired for admitting that the promotion had faked an injury story to cancel a fight, Zuffa is all lies and bull sh1t and this is somehow is just another example.

Maybe they could not risk the Reem losing to Big Foot because of the PPV sales he would bring to the UFC if he was to join right now.
Hold the phone, they were fired for bullying arianny and insinuating koscheck faked his eye injury in the AJ fight..What fighters' fake injury led to a fight bein cancelled?

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post #64 of 75 (permalink) Old 07-30-2011, 09:37 PM
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Just because Lesnar doesn't have a black belt, doesn't mean he would beat all but the top 3-4 BJJ guys in the world in a grappling match.
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post #65 of 75 (permalink) Old 07-31-2011, 12:14 AM
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Just because Lesnar doesn't have a black belt, doesn't mean he would beat all but the top 3-4 BJJ guys in the world in a grappling match.
Whoa, top 3-4 guys in the world? No way. Roger Gracie would submit Lesnar at will. Even a MW like Maia would probably hook his leg faster than he could say "hulksmash."


In a sweaty MMA fight with GnP, no grabbing the shorts etc it could be different story but on a mat (gi or no gi), there are hundreds of BJJ guys who would have their way with Lesnar. There are plenty of heavyweight wrestlers who would dominate Lesnar in a straight wrestling match too - Cole Konrad is said to bully around everyone including Cain and Lesnar. Not to mention these olympic-level guys who would put a clinic on him.

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post #66 of 75 (permalink) Old 07-31-2011, 01:35 AM
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That's what makes MMA, you can't be a master at on discipline and expect to be good. That's the problem with most master BJJ blackbelts, they specialize on one discipline for so long without working at anything else and get tooled by any competent stiker/wrestler.

In an mma fight, I don't see Lesnar being submitted at all. He was submitted by Frank Mir on his first UFC fight because he was over aggressive and didn't know any better.
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post #67 of 75 (permalink) Old 07-31-2011, 04:24 AM
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I hope everything works out and he signs with UFC. I know that Overeem might be a little hard to negotiate but it's doable.

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He needs time to cycle the roids

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Whoa, top 3-4 guys in the world? No way. Roger Gracie would submit Lesnar at will. Even a MW like Maia would probably hook his leg faster than he could say "hulksmash."


In a sweaty MMA fight with GnP, no grabbing the shorts etc it could be different story but on a mat (gi or no gi), there are hundreds of BJJ guys who would have their way with Lesnar. There are plenty of heavyweight wrestlers who would dominate Lesnar in a straight wrestling match too - Cole Konrad is said to bully around everyone including Cain and Lesnar. Not to mention these olympic-level guys who would put a clinic on him.
I think you misread my post. I said all but the top 3 or 4 guys which IMO included Roger and Maia. Although Maia would be fighting a huge uphill battle with that size difference (he isn't exactly the biggest MW). I could definitely see Brock getting Maia down and forcing a brute force sub or just winning on points. If it was with a gi Maia would have a much better chance.

I also specifically mentioned BJJ guys to exclude the wrestler vs wrestler debate.
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post #70 of 75 (permalink) Old 07-31-2011, 01:01 PM
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My guess is the big picture would be to dissolve strikeforce eventually, take the talent drop the dead weight, and finally monopolizes the fight game as the biggest in the world. I always find the women's fights interesting but don't think Dana is a fan of having that as a division so imo strikeforce is the only organization keeping that alive for the girls.
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