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General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.
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07-31-2011, 03:19 PM
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MMA Patriot
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Originally Posted by Davisty69
I find it weird how many people are completely ignoring those vicious shots to the back of the head and simply saying "good stoppage."
It seems after this, every fighter out there, after they rock their opponent, should just wail away on the back of their head to end the fight. The ref isn't going to give a shit because it looks like he is protecting the fighter and the winner will be able to dismiss it as the rush of finishing the fight.
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In case you havent noticed there are several fights that end with shots to the back of the head in a tko scramble. When there is a tko scrable lots of rules like this are thrown out the window. Fedor doesn't get any special treatment.
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07-31-2011, 05:38 PM
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CoutureCop
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Originally Posted by americanfighter
In case you havent noticed there are several fights that end with shots to the back of the head in a tko scramble. When there is a tko scrable lots of rules like this are thrown out the window. Fedor doesn't get any special treatment.
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I don't care that it was Fedor. I'm not even a big Fan of his. It is a crap way to end a fight no matter who it is.
And I agree with you. He was probably completely out. However it doesn't matter. The shots to the back of the head are illegal, and for a reason, no matter how asleep your opponent appears.
If they never do anything about it, what is to stop fighters from doing it on purpose? Rock em, nail em in the the back of the head. It is a bad precedent. |
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07-31-2011, 05:52 PM
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As long as there is a six figure paycheck waiting for him, he'll come back.
Right now, Fedor's in the same point in his career that Chuck Liddell was at when he was getting mauled by the likes of Keith Jardine and Rashad Evans.
Fedor's in the tail end of his career and like most greats, is in denial about it.
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07-31-2011, 06:05 PM
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MMA Fanatic
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it were some heavy punches by dan..but still I think the referee had to wait 2 more seconds..
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07-31-2011, 06:28 PM
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That was a perfect punch from Dan, but any chance of a recovery was muted with those bombs to the back of the head. People recover from being rocked like that all the time, Fedor moved his left arm to posture right before the shots to the back of the head. You can't ignore two illegal bombs because someone gets rocked, but I understand it's nearly impossible to call that on the spot. Herb made the right call for Fedors safety, but standing back and looking at the fight, it's tough to live with for Fedor i'm sure.
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07-31-2011, 06:32 PM
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The Avy Slut
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Originally Posted by NameChange
Those were some nasty punches to back of the head and neck..
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Well honestly, they weren't the punches that KOd him - it was the one uppercut just as Hendo crept out the back that caught Fedor flush on the chin and put him out.
Perfect stoppage by H.D.
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07-31-2011, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Davisty69
I find it weird how many people are completely ignoring those vicious shots to the back of the head and simply saying "good stoppage."
It seems after this, every fighter out there, after they rock their opponent, should just wail away on the back of their head to end the fight. The ref isn't going to give a shit because it looks like he is protecting the fighter and the winner will be able to dismiss it as the rush of finishing the fight.
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yeah i kinda think if it was a less liked fighter then people would care more. I do think there should be some rules in place so people dont just get 2 excited and whale on someones back of the head and paralyze them. This should be talked about in the locker room before the fight since its kinda unfair to take someones win away at the last second.
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Originally Posted by Mike28
Come on man.... He was KO'd before the shots to the head but IMO those shots landed on the back of the head but you can see he is trying to hit the side of the head. But it doesnt matter Fedor was KO'd on the uppercut. Fight was over at that point in time.
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I dont think he is arguing the stoppage..
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07-31-2011, 08:40 PM
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He was out for a second, but that doesnt mean the fight should of been stopped there has been a few times when a fighter has been ko'd for a split second but then come back and won. Kongo went out 2 or 3 times before he KO'd barry, but at the same time i wouldnt of argued then if herb had stopped that fight. It was a tough call, but i think either way it would of been the correct choice, but if he let it go on, he should of penalised Dan for the shots to the back of the head imo.
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07-31-2011, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by michelangelo
As long as there is a six figure paycheck waiting for him, he'll come back.
Right now, Fedor's in the same point in his career that Chuck Liddell was at when he was getting mauled by the likes of Keith Jardine and Rashad Evans.
Fedor's in the tail end of his career and like most greats, is in denial about it.
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I disagree. Chuck didn't get 'mauled' by anyone. He lost a few at the end of his career but they were still good fights. Certainly not getting 'mauled'.
Same goes for Fedor. It's fair to say he got 'mauled' by Big Foot. But other than that he hasn't been 'mauled'. |
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08-01-2011, 12:21 AM
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The King of Apes
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Originally Posted by Davisty69
I find it weird how many people are completely ignoring those vicious shots to the back of the head and simply saying "good stoppage."
It seems after this, every fighter out there, after they rock their opponent, should just wail away on the back of their head to end the fight. The ref isn't going to give a shit because it looks like he is protecting the fighter and the winner will be able to dismiss it as the rush of finishing the fight.
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Hmmm this is food for thought. I will be honest and admit I didn't even notice how bad those shots were. Not joking at all when I say i'm gonna have ti think this one over, it is very controversial when you look at it that way.
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