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post #21 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-01-2011, 06:54 PM
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If your a believer and get shocked with a lose, and say that I'm no longer Gods Worrier? Then I don't think your a believer ! Faith means you believe in God in whats Good and What appears to you as Bad. Not seeking only good things. Plus, who knows, it might be for his sake he had those loses.

Hendo is a great fighter, that is a fact, and for me he is a true legend of the sport. But, if only Fedor had a good game plan, he could of took him out without the need to tier him down.
Even a person of Mother Teresa's caliber questions their faith at times, it's called being human. It's a tight slope and everyone deals with their beliefs in different ways. You be far fetched to find two Catholics that believe the same thing lol. Who knows what goes on in a person's head, we can only speculate.

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Lots of excellent posts in this thread (finally a place where there's no hate)

Fedor could have finished the fight with Henderson in the same way he lost the very fight if he didn't dive in recklessly. Dan is a beast and can catch anyone with that H bomb.

I respect him having his beliefs and faith, it makes us human and gives us motivation and reasons to live/strive forward in hard times.

Fedor with a great camp (Jackson or possibly guys from Europe) would pay massive dividends and with a drop to LHW, would rejuvenate his spirits. I still think he could be relevant at HW, but it's extremely hard giving up that kind of weight/size advantage.

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I reviewed the fight a second time before writing this. Fedor had a ton of missed opportunities especially in the end. Punches that narrowly missed Hendo's head by inches. This is the same "killer" in pride. Got me thinking...most Pride fighters fought with instincts; Fedor, Shogun, Wand, Mirko, etc. None of em really ever implemented a game plan other than maybe Big Nog (take down then submission.) AT LEAST Fedor still fights the same way and for us fans puts on a show. No feeling out process, no waiting, no hesitation, kill or be killed.

What he left behind is the BLUEPRINT to becoming a champion and even more important to stay as one for the better part of the decade. Stoic, poised, and fearless. These are the traits that he represents.

Suppose like all emperors before em...

All things must come to an end, even for the immortals.
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Even a person of Mother Teresa's caliber questions their faith at times, it's called being human. It's a tight slope and everyone deals with their beliefs in different ways. You be far fetched to find two Catholics that believe the same thing lol. Who knows what goes on in a person's head, we can only speculate.
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Lots of excellent posts in this thread (finally a place where there's no hate)

Fedor could have finished the fight with Henderson in the same way he lost the very fight if he didn't dive in recklessly. Dan is a beast and can catch anyone with that H bomb.

I respect him having his beliefs and faith, it makes us human and gives us motivation and reasons to live/strive forward in hard times.

Fedor with a great camp (Jackson or possibly guys from Europe) would pay massive dividends and with a drop to LHW, would rejuvenate his spirits. I still think he could be relevant at HW, but it's extremely hard giving up that kind of weight/size advantage.
Yes, he went for that fast finish, and against who? A veteran of the sport! and a real clever one if not the best!

I think he needs to change the camp and his training partners to get to know new things. Training for more than 15 years with the same guys, same camp, same everything for sure will reach a limit.

I totally disagree with you about moving to the LHW, and I still think he can finish even Big Fool Silva if he only goes out there with a plan, not just "Hang and Bang"

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I reviewed the fight a second time before writing this. Fedor had a ton of missed opportunities especially in the end. Punches that narrowly missed Hendo's head by inches. This is the same "killer" in pride. Got me thinking...most Pride fighters fought with instincts; Fedor, Shogun, Wand, Mirko, etc. None of em really ever implemented a game plan other than maybe Big Nog (take down then submission.) AT LEAST Fedor still fights the same way and for us fans puts on a show. No feeling out process, no waiting, no hesitation, kill or be killed.

What he left behind is the BLUEPRINT to becoming a champion and even more important to stay as one for the better part of the decade. Stoic, poised, and fearless. These are the traits that he represents.

Suppose like all emperors before em...

All things must come to an end, even for the immortals.
Yes, its really the game plan + the mental thing that made him loose those 3 fights. Those in bold what makes me can't stand to see a year of MMA without a FEDOR fight

He really has the heart of a LION, and the power of an Emperor. I really just hope, hope, hope he doesn't hang his gloves yet. He can get back and destruct the whole HW class again, just like the old days.

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I don't really get all the "if he did/didn't... he would have won". What you're implying is if he wasn't Fedor he would have won, no?

I'm a long time fedor fan but as someone in another thread said, these losses put him and his career in kind of a different perspective. All three losses were in my mind not flukes. Yes he got wreckless to finish against Werdum but that's how he fights. And he got submitted fair and square. Bigfoot won due to size and strength advantages backed up with excellent technique. Against Hendo i got surprised when Hendo scrambled and made Fedor lose position which was followed by the ko. To manage to get dominant positions was one of the things I've considered Fedor being the best at.

He wasn't overrated if you have realistic viewpoints. He just isn't the overlord some tried to see him as.

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