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Old 08-01-2011, 02:56 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I'm so thankful Henderson exposed this myth. His legacy will be a decade of ducking (maybe half a decade to be fair), rather than a decade of dominance.
Which 5-10 year period did he duck all opponents and only fought cans?
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:56 PM   #32 (permalink)
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He can't be a Guy that gave us exciting fights? His record is really not that great if your looking at it to validate him as a legend. Truth be told his record is little padded IMO but I enjoyed every fight I've seen which is more than I can say about gap or Silva and to me that's enough.
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Old 08-01-2011, 03:04 PM   #33 (permalink)
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He can't be a Guy that gave us exciting fights? His record is really not that great if your looking at it to validate him as a legend. Truth be told his record is little padded IMO but I enjoyed every fight I've seen which is more than I can say about gap or Silva and to me that's enough.
That's fine. It's a very non-culti view of the guy. He wasn't the best, but was exciting to watch. But you have to admit, most of his fans are a bit out of whack and take it much further than this.
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I think thats just human nature but I've been training hard and have not had a lot of time to hangout here. Been trying to get myself in fight shape.

Anyway I have nothing but respect for Fedor and his accomplishments the only fighter I can't stand is Sonnen.
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Old 08-01-2011, 03:20 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Which 5-10 year period did he duck all opponents and only fought cans?
Sure. Let's start by journeying back to 2008. You've got Silvia (joke), completely dominated by LHW Couture. KO'd by Mercer a 50 year old boxer. Then AA (who lost to Silvia twice) was puffed up by the media as the #2 HW in the world (we can thank Sherdog for that). He of course was exposed afterward. Then the mighty Fedor takes on the tire salesman, who actually looked really good against Fedor for a while, and embarrassed him a bit. Then came Werdum, freshly cut from the UFC, suffering loses from JDS and even AA. For sure he would keep the "winning streak" going. Ooops. He armbars Fedor with relative ease. Then Big Foot utterly destroys him. Then what does the last imperious one do? Hey! let's take on a really old middleweight. Yeah, that'll get us a win for sure!! Our legacy is saved! Not.

So what was going on before 2008 with the greatest of all time? Why there was Hong Man! Before that? Linland "the Law". A natural 185 pounder. Before that Mark Hunt and Mark Coleman (a natural LHW).

Sorry this is not the resume of the greatest HW of all time. Was he exciting? Yes. Was he good? Yes. Anything beyond that is emotional.
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Old 08-01-2011, 03:27 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I think thats just human nature but I've been training hard and have not had a lot of time to hangout here. Been trying to get myself in fight shape.

Anyway I have nothing but respect for Fedor and his accomplishments the only fighter I can't stand is Sonnen.
My only beef with Fedor is avoiding the best and not going out like he should have. Liddell Couture Hughes even the beloved Shamrock went out like champions. They fought the best until they were no longer the best and the best passed them up. They never attempted to protect their records. Fedor could have done this. He would have had my respect.

Who's Sonnen?
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Yeah, three losses in a row, his record is f*cked! Fedor just hasn't looked like the killer he used to in Pride. I think he fights more for a paycheck now rather than fighting because he loves the sport or really wants to compete.
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Old 08-01-2011, 03:47 PM   #38 (permalink)
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MMA fans are becoming just as fickle as boxing fans.

Lose a fight or two and all of a sudden he's 'overrated' or 'he was never that good in the first place'

Has Fedor declined? Yes.

Has the sport passsed him by? possibly....

Is it time for him to hang up his gloves? IMO, yes.

But get the **** outta here with all the 'overrated' 'not that good' bullshit. Fedor is the greatest HW of his era, hands down.
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Old 08-01-2011, 03:53 PM   #39 (permalink)
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MMA fans are becoming just as fickle as boxing fans.

Lose a fight or two and all of a sudden he's 'overrated' or 'he was never that good in the first place' ....
I've about had it with this canned moronic response. If you think that's what this is about, you're absolutely clueless. Please pay attention. You might learn something.
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I've about had it with this canned moronic response. If you think that's what this is about, you're absolutely clueless. Please pay attention. You might learn something.
Ah yes, the good old trusty, 'your a noob so you don't know anything' response. Original.

Please don't patronise me. The only thing moronic is you assuming anyone who doesn't agree with your way of thinking is stupid.

And it's true what i said. Pick any member of this forum at random and check their posts about Tito before and AFTER the Bader fight.
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