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Old 08-01-2011, 05:09 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Ah yes, the good old trusty, 'your a noob so you don't know anything' response. Original....
Did you actually read the OP? Just curious.
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Old 08-01-2011, 05:14 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Did you actually read the OP? Just curious.
From the beginning of the thread or the one directed at me? (yes I read both)
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From the beginning of the thread or the one directed at me? (yes I read both)
When you read things silently, do your lips move?
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Old 08-01-2011, 05:25 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Sure. Let's start by journeying back to 2008.
Which 5 years are they? If you're starting at 2008 he's only had 3 wins, not to mention that 5 years is impossible since that was only 3 years ago.

I'm not even arguing that he's a legend at this point. Hell I don't even really like him, I'm just wondering where someone would have the chutzpah to say he has half a decade of ducking opponents.
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When you read things silently, do your lips move?
Nice deflection from the point. Anytime you wanna talk about MMA, just let me know.
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Which 5 years are they? If you're starting at 2008 he's only had 3 wins, not to mention that 5 years is impossible since that was only 3 years ago.

I'm not even arguing that he's a legend at this point. Hell I don't even really like him, I'm just wondering where someone would have the chutzpah to say he has half a decade of ducking opponents.
I definitely have the chutzpah to say he's been ducking the best for 5 or 6 years. In my post I went all the way back to 2006.
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Nice deflection from the point. Anytime you wanna talk about MMA, just let me know.
Just trying to diagnose the problem. Trying to figure out how you inferred from the OP that this is about Fedor's recent 3 loses. But you said you read it, so......
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Just trying to diagnose the problem. Trying to figure out how you inferred from the OP that this is about Fedor's recent 3 loses. But you said you read it, so......
Ohhhh, so it's a coincidence you've thought of this thread two days after his third consecutive loss?

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he was the best HW in the world at a time when the HW div. was the joke of MMA. those HW's have proven to be, at worst pathetic, at best, 2nd tier (Nog is really the only one that comes to mind).
Really?


Semmy Schilt - 23 - 9 in MMA 1-0 in kickboxing, with wins over Mezger, Pete Williams and Kondo.

Defeats Heath Herring - In the top 10 in MMA, was 20-8 with wins over Igor, Mark Kerr, Inoue, Evan Tanner and Schrijber.

Mark Coleman (x2) - Former UFC Champ, Former PRIDE HW GP 2000 Winner, top 10 at the time, 13 - 6 in MMA. Wins over Frye, Igor, Fujita, Severn, and Goodridge.

Kevin Randleman - Former UFC Champ, top 10 at the time. 15-8 in MMA with wins over Mirko Cro Cop, Ninja Rua, Sobral, Rizzo, Pete Williamsand Maurice Smith

Mirko Cro Cop - top 5 kickboxer and MMA fighter, 16 - 3 in MMA, 16 - 7 in kickboxing. Wins over Sapp, Bonjasky, Hunt, Aerts, Musashi, Nortje, Jerome le Banner, Wanderlei Silva, Sakuraba, Herring, Igor, Aleksander Emelienako, Josh Barnett, Randleman, and Coleman.

Matt Lindland - Olympic gold Medalist, top 5 in MW, 20 - 5 at the time. With wins over Newton, Horn, Van Aresdale, Lutter, Fryklund, Baroni, Militech, Ricardo Almeida, and Fulton.

Tim Sylvia - Former two time UFC Champ 24-5 at the time, with wins over Jeff Monson, Arlovski, Asseurio Silva, Tra Telligman, Wes Sims, Gan Mcgee, Ricco Rodriguez, Jason Lambert, Mike Whitehead, and Ben Rothwell.

Andrei Arlovski - 2 time UFC champ, 15 - 6 in MMA at the time. Wins over, Jake OBrien, Roy Nelson, Rothwell, Werdum, Cruz, Buentello, Eilers,Tim Sylvia, and Matuyshenko

These guys were jokes?
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Come on guys if your really going to take the negative road on fedor's legacy and bright up that his past was a joke etc. You might as well bring everything that happen in the past in mma in to dispute. Fedor is a legend leave it as that, if your going to let his 3 fights lost in recent memory put an astrik on his entire career you might as well do the same to even great fighter from the pass.

At the end of the day, Fedor,wandy,big nog,chuck,bass,gracie,etc are all mma legend and all have great legacy in the sport. Just leave the past in the past and move on. Don't let the future affect the pas, because deep down we all know any old school legend could not hang with the guys today.
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Ohhhh, so it's a coincidence you've thought of this thread two days after his third consecutive loss?
Er, okay. At this point I'm guessing the lips move.

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But anyway,
But anyway.....

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Semmy Schilt - 23 - 9 in MMA 1-0 in kickboxing, with wins over Mezger, Pete Williams and Kondo.

Defeats Heath Herring - In the top 10 in MMA, was 20-8 with wins over Igor, Mark Kerr, Inoue, Evan Tanner and Schrijber.

Mark Coleman (x2) - Former UFC Champ, Former PRIDE HW GP 2000 Winner, top 10 at the time, 13 - 6 in MMA. Wins over Frye, Igor, Fujita, Severn, and Goodridge.
Coleman was a natural Light Heavyweight.

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Kevin Randleman - Former UFC Champ, top 10 at the time. 15-8 in MMA with wins over Mirko Cro Cop, Ninja Rua, Sobral, Rizzo, Pete Williamsand Maurice Smith
As was Randleman

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Matt Lindland - Olympic gold Medalist, top 5 in MW, 20 - 5 at the time. With wins over Newton, Horn, Van Aresdale, Lutter, Fryklund, Baroni, Militech, Ricardo Almeida, and Fulton. Current

Tim Sylvia - Former two time UFC Champ 24-5 at the time, with wins over Jeff Monson, Arlovski, Asseurio Silva, Tra Telligman, Wes Sims, Gan Mcgee, Ricco Rodriguez, Jason Lambert, Mike Whitehead, and Ben Rothwell.

Andrei Arlovski - 2 time UFC champ, 15 - 6 in MMA at the time. Wins over, Jake OBrien, Roy Nelson, Rothwell, Werdum, Cruz, Buentello, Eilers,Tim Sylvia, and Matuyshenko

These guys were jokes?
Yes. I have a great deal of respect for Crocop and Nogueira. They went for the best which was in the UFC, and though not successful, they went the highroad. They went out like true champions. Fedor went the low road, and couldn't cut it there. He tried to cheat and failed.

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