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post #71 of 94 (permalink) Old 08-01-2011, 07:13 PM
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OP you should seriously quit it already. You talk about Fedor and his ridiculous fans? Kind of hypocritical considering you're trying to slander him.

He never ducked anyone, that's just plain nonsense. You said he was irrelevant since 2006... he fought 2 ex UFC champs that 'were' (key word) ranked then.

Barnett was the only other big name he would have fought then (if it hasn't been for his partaking in a banned substance).

Fans like you make everyone else really look bad because of your negativity, lack of knowledge and disrespect to a legend.

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OP you should seriously quit it already. You talk about Fedor and his ridiculous fans? Kind of hypocritical considering you're trying to slander him.

He never ducked anyone, ..........
I couldn't read another word after this. You just lost all credibility.
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I couldn't read another word after this. You just lost all credibility.
I dont think he ducked anyone... Alistair Overeem doesn't either. Alistair admitted that Fedor as a fighter wouldn't duck anyone, but his management - ABSOLUTELY. Fedor may have made more money with M1, but they were without a doubt terrible for MMA and the "legacy" of Fedor as a whole.
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OP you should seriously quit it already. You talk about Fedor and his ridiculous fans? Kind of hypocritical considering you're trying to slander him.

He never ducked anyone, that's just plain nonsense. You said he was irrelevant since 2006... he fought 2 ex UFC champs that 'were' (key word) ranked then.

Barnett was the only other big name he would have fought then (if it hasn't been for his partaking in a banned substance).

Fans like you make everyone else really look bad because of your negativity, lack of knowledge and disrespect to a legend.
Thank you!

I'm annoyed with this blatant hate-fest already, I'm not a fan of Fedor's by any means but he's still a warrior who dominated for 10 freakin' years, against some of the worlds finest...and I respect the hell outta him for that.

I'm outta here!

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I dont think he ducked anyone... Alistair Overeem doesn't either. Alistair admitted that Fedor as a fighter wouldn't duck anyone, but his management - ABSOLUTELY. Fedor may have made more money with M1, but they were without a doubt terrible for MMA and the "legacy" of Fedor as a whole.
I still don't buy this. Fedor was M1. M1 was Fedor. Fedor could have done what he wanted. I just don't buy the M1 excuse.

Think about it. You really don't think Fedor had any pull with that org? They and him could have made a fortune in the UFC, setting up a superfight with Brock. You really think Fedor was chomping at the bit and they shut it down?
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I still don't buy this. Fedor was M1. M1 was Fedor. Fedor could have done what he wanted. I just don't buy the M1 excuse.

Think about it. You really don't think Fedor had any pull with that org? They and him could have made a fortune in the UFC, setting up a superfight with Brock. You really think Fedor was chomping at the bit and they shut it down?
Thats a good question. I honestly dont know. Most fighters let their management deal with all negotiations, so not sure if M1 was any different. I dont think Fedor as a fighter would try avoid anyone. The way he faced his opponents was absolutely fearless, to the point of reckless. I dont see this as the type of behaviour by someone who ducks opponents.
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I couldn't read another word after this. You just lost all credibility.


You don't really know what credibility really is do you?

You remind me of Dana white, slander someone when you don't sign them but praise them when you have them.

Fickle fans, you're one of them.

Edit-= Up until 1-2 years ago, many highly respected fighters, journalists and critics widely considered Fedor one of the greatest fighters. You don't get those nods when you duck people or don't accomplish now do you?

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For the last time Fedor ducked nobody...who did he duck some ufc guys? I bet if any of those dude was in strikeforce he would have fought them. He did not duck anybody in pride, he did not duck anybody in strikeforce. If he had won against big foot it would have been him vs the reem.
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Edit-= Up until 1-2 years ago, many highly respected fighters, journalists and critics widely considered Fedor one of the greatest fighters. You don't get those nods when you duck people or don't accomplish now do you?
This is true, but he's been criticized by the same supporters for not facing top opposition. I don't think this was his doing, more bad management... but it is really sad the guy never got to prove himself against the current UFC heavyweights. M1 deprived us of this. He is the best heavyweight ever, just as Matt Hughes (or GSP) was the best Welterweight, just as BJ was the best Lightweight... no more, no less. But his reign started to crumble for me, when Arlovski tested him...
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This is true, but he's been criticized by the same supporters for not facing top opposition. I don't think this was his doing, more bad management... but it is really sad the guy never got to prove himself against the current UFC heavyweights. M1 deprived us of this. He is the best heavyweight ever, just as Matt Hughes (or GSP) was the best Welterweight, just as BJ was the best Lightweight... no more, no less. But his reign started to crumble for me, when Arlovski tested him...
Well said, I do believe for Fedor being a co-owner of M1 is a catch 22, or double edged sword if you will.

They are terrible match makers and do not look out for his interests as a fighter other than making $$$

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