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post #1 of 94 (permalink) Old 07-31-2011, 08:18 PM Thread Starter
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Fedor's Legacy

Le's face it, it's tarnished. Yes, he was the best HW in the world at a time when the HW div. was the joke of MMA. That's the only place he shined. He did beat some old school HW's from the UFC and elsewhere. But those HW's have proven to be, at worst pathetic, at best, 2nd tier (Nog is really the only one that comes to mind).

In reality, Fedor was at the top of the heap for a very brief time when the sport was still taking off and the HW's barely spreading their wings. What kept his reputation going so long was not beating great fighters, but a disgusting display of record protecting by his management company, himself and the mma media who puffed up his p4p ranking.

Just as it took a middle-aged LHW in Couture to expose the HW div., it took a 40 year old middleweight UFC cut to expose Fedor as perhaps the most overrated fighter in MMA history. Like it or not, that's his legacy. Was he good during his time? Yes. But he and his cohorts wouldn't stop there and paid the price.

He should have entered the UFC and taken his lumps by the best on the world. He probably would have even got past Couture before getting destroyed by a true HW. He still would have had a great legacy. But instead he took the low road, and unfortunately even that proved too tough to navigate.

Fedor is the most overrated fighter in MMA history.

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post #2 of 94 (permalink) Old 07-31-2011, 08:26 PM
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It's a bit harsh, but I'm going to place blame on Vadummy from M-1.

They would have killed it win lose or draw against Brock. In fact I think Fedor would have been the one to dethrone em.

Funny how things turn out...
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i would not say tarnished i have watch alot of prides and almost all the ufc and fedor is one of the greats for sure he almost had henderson and got caught. Know i am pissed he did not go to ufc write away but maybe he did not feel like he could compete there, to say the least he is great and dan henderson is also great i think he was win or lose in the fedor fight. Ufc did a wrong thing and let go dan hendo henderson. bottom line in my opnion
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He's overrated only in that the best HW ever in MMA thus far should not be considered greater than the best at other divisions.

He'll be number 1 for a while in that division until Cain overtakes him, but I think even 3rd P4P all time is generous.


Also describing Hendo as a "UFC cut" or "UFC washout", is ridiculous. He was still a beast even if he wasn't the absolute best. He just wanted to make a ton of money so he left to SF who'd pay him 750k per fight.

But he is old as hell and he is an undersized LHW...that much is actually true.


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Just to clarify; Hendo did not get cut by the UFC.

But yeah, Fedors legacy is pretty much as dead as processed foodstuff. Sad to say it really, but I've never been a huge Fedor fan anyway.
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I think what is happening here is that MMA is starting to get past Fedor. We heard this story many times before. Men who were once dominant start to look less imposing. Best example would be Matt Hughes.
remember when he was the most dominant WW in the world. Now he is nowhere in the picture. Same with Chuck Liddell and Wanderlei Silva. One day it will probably happen to Anderson Silva and GSP.

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I think what is happening here is that MMA is starting to get past Fedor. We heard this story many times before. Men who were once dominant start to look less imposing. Best example would be Matt Hughes.
remember when he was the most dominant WW in the world. Now he is nowhere in the picture. Same with Chuck Liddell and Wanderlei Silva. One day it will probably happen to Anderson Silva and GSP.
Unless they retire early, on a winning streak, it will happen eventually. Maybie sooner then later.
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I think what is happening here is that MMA is starting to get past Fedor. We heard this story many times before. Men who were once dominant start to look less imposing. Best example would be Matt Hughes.
remember when he was the most dominant WW in the world. Now he is nowhere in the picture. Same with Chuck Liddell and Wanderlei Silva. One day it will probably happen to Anderson Silva and GSP.
Matt Hughes was a different case. He just lived out the lifespan of his career and passed on the torch to the next great p4p fighter in GSP. Any losses afterward were mainly just the result of him being 400 years old.

Chuck was also a different case, he met his foil in Rampage. A guy who could consistently beat him in his prime. After the devastating KO, Chuck just couldn't come back from it given his age and it ruined his chin.

Fedor's fall from grace is more similar to Takanori Gomi's more than anyone else.


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I imagine people will say the same of gsp and anderson some day. I've been following MMA for a decade. Fedor was the greatest fighter to have ever lived up until the later 2000s. He is still the most achieved fighter, greatest heavyweight to have ever lived. This will not change if he loses 10 more fights.



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Unless they retire early, on a winning streak, it will happen eventually. Maybie sooner then later.
Well at this point, Anderson is pretty much ancient and any time he retires it certainly wouldn't be "early". It's crazy he's still as good as he is at his age.

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