Weight and absolute champion of ADCC in 2009, Braulio Estima was training hard for this year’s super fight, when he’s fighting Ronaldo Jacare. Braulio tells us about the advantage of ‘fighting home’, in England, where he current lives, and training along with names like Roger Gracie and Georges. St. Pierre.
“I’m getting prepared for a war, I’m doing my homework. There’ll be sparks all over the place”, said Braulio, who’s never been defeated by Jacare in Jiu-Jitsu competitions. “I want to reign in ADCC for a long time. He didn’t poke me, he just said the truth. I really never beat him up… It’s a past thing, I don’t care much, because in the end the last winner is the one who’ll be remembered as the real winner”.
Check below the exclusive interview with the black belt, who talked about his plans for debuting in MMA, evaluated Roger Gracie’s evolution in Strikeforce and commented on the trainings with St. Pierre, UFC champion and, according to him, an owner of a perfect Jiu-Jitsu. “His Jiu-Jitsu is really sharp, explosive and efficient… He’d have real chances to win ADCC”.
How was it training with St. Pierre?
It’s always really great training with him. He’s a phenomenal athlete, he’s really experienced and he’s a nice guy. We are always better after training with him then we were when we first came here.
How did it come up?
Roger came back last week from Canada, and we trained in London. GSP came to England to train and strengthen the team for Roger’s training for Strikeforce.
What are your thoughts about his Jiu-Jitsu?
His Jiu-Jitsu is really sharp, explosive and efficient… He’d have real chances to win ADCC.
You’re now focused in ADCC, but do you still consider fighting MMA in the future?
Now I’m really focused in ADCC, 100%, but I always train MMA as a way to prepare myself, and I intend to debut soon. I’ve had some hindrance with Shine Fights, but, soon, I’ll be on the cage.
Is your idea to debut this year, or is it a project for 2012?
I have some propositions to fight this year. If everything goes right, I can fight this year, but in MMA there’s always some unexpected things happening, so…
Are you dealing with some event?
We’re exchanging emails, talking about it…
How are the trainings with GSP a good help in your prep for ADCC?
He’s one of the most explosive guys I’ve ever trained with. His Wrestling is awesome, incredible and he’s really fast and technical. I’ve learned much, besides feeling how it’s really like to fight a professional wrestler. He breaks the guard really well, pulling and grabbing you, and then he stands-up when he has you on the top. Since Jacare is a really explosive guy and has similar skills, it’s helping me a lot to get prepared.
What do you expect when fighting Jacare?
I’m prepared for the toughest bout of my career, very busy. I’m getting prepared for a war, I’m doing my homework. There’ll be sparks all over the place.
Jacare poked you, since you’ve never defeated him. Does that motivate you even more?
I’m really motivated for this fight. Nothing personal, but for the challenge of being the champion of the super fight. I want to reign in ADCC for a long time. He didn’t poke me, he just said the truth. I really never beat him up… It’s a past thing, I don’t care much, because in the end the last winner is the one who’ll be remembered as the real winner. The same way I behave when I’m defending my titles. What’s gone is gone, and it won’t matter. To become the champion doesn’t mean a thing if you’re not trained for the competition. Whoever’s best on the day will win. I just want to thank him for giving me the chance to do it, since I thought it was never going to happen.
Do you believe that being dedicated to MMA will put him on a disadvantage place for this fight?
I watch him fighting MMA, I’m a fan, I cheer for him. I see many interview with him, since when he first started fighting MMA, I know he trains Jiu-Jitsu with and with no gi every week, so I believe he wouldn’t get into this if he wasn’t prepared for it. I know he trains everything, so it’ll be a great fight.
Back to GSP, who’s fighting Nick Diaz in UFC… Watching his trainings, how do you think this fight will be like?
Man, I bet 100% in GSP. He’s really tactic, and Diaz won’t bring much danger to him. I’ve been helping him on the trainings a lot, I should go to Montreal right after ADCC to be on his team for his final preparation against Diaz, due to the fact I have a similar structure and I’m lefty like Diaz. Diaz doesn’t move a lot and he goes for it, so it helps GSP.
How do you see Roger’s evolution in MMA?
Roger is really tough, he is getting better and better every week. He’s a smart guy and knows how to explore his advantages. He’s going far. His Boxing and Muay Thai are evolving a lot… The two kilometers knee is not that pleasant (laughs).
He’s fighting King Mo in Strikeforce. What do you expect of this fight?
It’ll b a tough fight. King Mo has a knockout punch, so he can’t blink. But Roger is better than him. I hope King Mo goes for the KO in the beginning, because that’s the only way King Mo could beat Roger up in my opinion, because if he takes him down, what I don’t think is likely, he’s be on the area where Roger is best. And if he plays in a long distance, Roger will get better and better, and it’ll be the opposite for King Mo.
Do you believe that, with a win, Roger will be ready for a title shot against Dan Henderson or go to UFC?
I guess if Roger wins this one he deserves a title shot more than everyone else. I believe we’ll have two top Jiu-Jitsu guys with belts (Roger and Jacare)… That’s great. And going to UFC will depend on the marketing strategy the owners will use, if they’ll keep the champions of each organization or if they have Strikeforce as a class B in MMA. I guess that, if the fans ask for it, it’ll easily happen.