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post #11 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-03-2011, 10:54 PM
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Somebody at golden glory pissed of Zuffa, I wonder who?
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post #12 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-03-2011, 10:55 PM
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Cruisin' on Twitter and found this...Coenen seems to be taking it well...

I want to thank all my fans for the overwhelming support & kindness. I can hardly wrap my head around the love you have showned me. You have supported me as a fighter & a representative of WMMA. And I genuinely thank you for this.

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But the whole team there shouldn't suffer for one person's actions.

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post #14 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-03-2011, 11:00 PM
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But the whole team there shouldn't suffer for one person's actions.
I agree, it really sucks for the fighters.
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post #15 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-03-2011, 11:33 PM
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Can still blame Scott Coker for all this bull sh1t seriously, fcuking greedy fat pig sold out what was a rising promotion that treated fighters with a little dignity and honour and now look at it just a few months later.

The greed of that fat pig disgusts me seriously the guy had to be worth more than his far share of dollars anyway, he cant have been strapped for cash or needy in anyway what so ever, I doubt he would have ever from now till the day he dies have needed more cash than he already had before he sold out, yet that was not enough obviously for that greedy fat fcuk

Fcuk you Scott Coker, Fcuk your Promotion, I hope you enjoy the rest of your days laid out with a stable full of hookers waiting to suck your cock because god knows you have to pay for sh1t like that cos no way on earth would you ever attract a fit women to get down on you any other way, without the cash we all know best you could do would be a retarded size 24 smelly fat slag desperate enough to take whatever she could get. But know this all the money in the world is not going to chance the fact you are just a little fat ugly greedy scumbag.
If you're going to direct personal attacks at someone for selling SF, Coker isn't really the one to call out. He wanted to keep going, it was his co-owner, and financial backer, Silicon Valley Sports Entertainment who wanted out.

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post #16 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-04-2011, 06:59 AM
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Well he wasn't even really the co-owner. He was just taking orders and running the company. In fact he was against selling to Zuffa.

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post #17 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-04-2011, 03:28 PM
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Here's some more insight from Dana himself:

PHILADELPHIA -- In the end, Dana White says, the split between the UFC, Strikeforce and its Golden Glory fighters came down to business issues.

Reigning Strikeforce heavyweight champ Alistair Overeem along with fellow Strikeforce fighters Valentijn Overeem and Marloes Coenen and UFC heavyweight Jon Olav Einemo were cut during the last week in a surprising development. Questions arose over what precipitated the move.

On Thursday, UFC president Dana White spoke about the issues that led to the split.

"This is actually a pretty simple explanation," he said. "If you look back throughout history, we haven't had any Golden Glory guys fight with us since Semmy Schilt, right? And the reason is we have very different business practices. It's tough to do business with them. The bottom line is the way they do business is, you have to pay them, not the fighters. We don't work that way. It's not the way we do business. It's not how it works in the United States with the athletic commissions. You don't pay the managers and the managers pay the fighters. You pay the fighters and the fighters pay the managers."

White went on to say that while they had previously honored existing Strikeforce deals, it became apparent Golden Glory management wouldn't change their long-held practices.

"They won't do it," he said. "We have to pay them, not the fighters."

While White said when they brought in Einemo, Golden Glory gave in to Zuffa's request, it was apparently a onetime only change. Asked if for example, Zuffa would bring back Coenen if they once again played by Zuffa's rules, White shook his head.

"They don't and they won't," he said.

The only existing Golden Glory fighter to remain on the Zuffa payroll is Strikeforce heavyweight Sergei Kharitonov, who remains in the Heavyweight Grand Prix and is expected to fight in September. Zuffa sources said because Einemo, Valentijn Overeem and Coenen had all lost, they could be cut. They chose to honor their existing deal with Kharitonov, but are paying him directly. If he loses, he would likely be cut.

White said Golden Glory should have no issues doing things their way in other foreign promotions, but as long as they deal with U.S. athletic commissions, Zuffa can only handle business one way.

"The reality is, we're trying to work out deals with these guys and they won't do it," White said. "They said you absolutely can't pay the fighters, you have to pay us. And it's pretty simple to look back and see that the last guy who fought in UFC was Semmy Schilt. There was a reason for that."
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post #18 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-04-2011, 03:34 PM
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Just business. And he says Sergei is done whether he wins or loses.
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post #19 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-04-2011, 04:01 PM
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Actually sounds like it's a way of protecting the fighters from getting screwed by their management. Still sux though.
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post #20 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-04-2011, 04:21 PM
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As I said in another forum, if you really wanna cut these guys, why wait for them to lose? Why not just cut them outright?

Either way, this sucks. A couple of Strikeforce's best heavyweights fought under that banner and I had hoped to see some of them in the UFC some day. Too bad GG and UFC couldn't see eye to eye.
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