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post #21 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-04-2011, 06:33 PM
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Here's some more insight from Dana himself:



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Dana can take his insight and stick it in his A*S!

This is just the UFC's way of showing who's the BOSS: "you play by our rules, or you can go f*uck yourself!!! go fight in 2nd grade promotions and try making a living out of that".

Like someone else said: Kharitonov will get cut too after he loses to Barnett.

It's a shame...too ugly.
I feel really bad for Coenen.

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limba, it may partly be Dana strutting his stuff. But the athletic commisions can also have alot of input in this scenario, don't forget that




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Can still blame Scott Coker for all this bull sh1t seriously, fcuking greedy fat pig sold out what was a rising promotion that treated fighters with a little dignity and honour and now look at it just a few months later.

The greed of that fat pig disgusts me seriously the guy had to be worth more than his far share of dollars anyway, he cant have been strapped for cash or needy in anyway what so ever, I doubt he would have ever from now till the day he dies have needed more cash than he already had before he sold out, yet that was not enough obviously for that greedy fat fcuk

Fcuk you Scott Coker, Fcuk your Promotion, I hope you enjoy the rest of your days laid out with a stable full of hookers waiting to suck your cock because god knows you have to pay for sh1t like that cos no way on earth would you ever attract a fit women to get down on you any other way, without the cash we all know best you could do would be a retarded size 24 smelly fat slag desperate enough to take whatever she could get. But know this all the money in the world is not going to chance the fact you are just a little fat ugly greedy scumbag.
A bit aggressive, but i agree in a lot of ways.

BTW, this is what Cocker had to say:
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"Well, you know, Mauro, that whole thing about Alistair (Overeem), I think it's been documented," Coker said. "I think it's been regurgitated over and over so I don't know if we have to get into that. But with Valentijn (Overeem) and Marloes (Coenen), you know, right now, there's only so many TV spots, as you know, until the middle of next year. And, uh, they're, um, you know, in this business, you've gotta keep winning. So, to me, it was a situation where Valentijn had that loss, I believe in June, so that was already in the works anyway. It just seems sudden to everybody because it just all happened this week. But that was already on its way for Valentijn. The slots are going to be for the fighters that are victorious right now. We have a lot of athletes under contract and we have to get everybody fights and there's only so many slots. There's only so many TV dates, we only have two more TV dates on the big show before the end of the year. September is already full, December is getting full and then January is hopefully are finals and that's going to have a full card already. So in fairness to the athletes, why just let them hang around? It's a much fairer situation to let them go fight elsewhere and create another future somewhere else."
And i'm gonna say this:

WHAT THE F*UCK DOES THAT MEAN?!
A champion lost a fight?! Let's cut him/her?!

I suggest every fighter should get cut after he/she loses. Because...what the hell...you have to keep winning, right?!

If winning is what it really counts, i have a question: Why the f*uck guys like Lawler, Smith, Daley or Feijao still have a job in SF?!

If i remember corectly they're on losing streaks also.

What a piece of s*hit...

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limba, it may partly be Dana strutting his stuff. But the athletic commisions can also have alot of input in this scenario, don't forget that
This is all ZUFFA.

Now that i think about it...I'm surprised they didn't cut Kharitonov

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Well unlike Overeem, Kharintov won't have his contract fulfilled until the Grand Prix is complete. That is if he keeps winning. If he looses then Dana White will have all the justification he needs to cut him.

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Good call on Zuffa's part....

....the Womens division was getting too overcrowded anyway, especially for a can like Coenen(!)

Zuffa are effectively ruining Women's MMA bit by bit, this is a seriously shitty move, this is people's employment and quest for a meaningful legacy they are playing with! This is the fighters lives! Their WHOLE lives they're messing with!
How exactly was the women's division getting too overcrowded when Strikeforce barely had enough female fighters to sustain the division to begin with? Although there is plenty of competition in the 135 lb division, the 145 lb division hardly has any fighters to keep it going. Strikeforce can't even get Cris Cyborg a decent fight. Strikeforce needs as many female fighters as it can get.

You thought that Zuffa's cutting of Marloes Coenen was a good call, call her a can, and then say it was a shitty move on Zuffa's part?!? That seems contradictable to me. Coenen is one of the top female fighters and a pioneer in the sport. You don't accomplish that as well as win the Strikeforce belt by being a "can". She deserves to be on the card and I enjoy watching her.
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How exactly was the women's division getting too overcrowded when Strikeforce barely had enough female fighters to sustain the division to begin with? Although there is plenty of competition in the 135 lb division, the 145 lb division hardly has any fighters to keep it going. Strikeforce can't even get Cris Cyborg a decent fight. Strikeforce needs as many female fighters as it can get.

You thought that Zuffa's cutting of Marloes Coenen was a good call, call her a can, and then say it was a shitty move on Zuffa's part?!? That seems contradictable to me. Coenen is one of the top female fighters and a pioneer in the sport. You don't accomplish that as well as win the Strikeforce belt by being a "can". She deserves to be on the card and I enjoy watching her.
Jesus it was sarcasm clearly. Lighten up ya prude.
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As I said in another forum, if you really wanna cut these guys, why wait for them to lose? Why not just cut them outright?

Either way, this sucks. A couple of Strikeforce's best heavyweights fought under that banner and I had hoped to see some of them in the UFC some day. Too bad GG and UFC couldn't see eye to eye.
They can only cut fighters if they lost their last fight or refuse a fight.

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Yeah, which applied to all of them. Alistair had a contract dispute and was cut. Enimo, Val, and Coenen all lost their last fights and once Kharintov either looses or fulfills his contract he's done.

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Dana can take his insight and stick it in his A*S!

This is just the UFC's way of showing who's the BOSS: "you play by our rules, or you can go f*uck yourself!!! go fight in 2nd grade promotions and try making a living out of that".

Like someone else said: Kharitonov will get cut too after he loses to Barnett.

It's a shame...too ugly.
I feel really bad for Coenen.
I'm getting the impression you didn't read his whole interview

It states the athletic commisions that you HAVE to pay the fighter and NOT the management thats why they wont do it because they can't. YOu can only do it that way and not Golden Glory's way

Jeeze, some Dana White haters can be too much with their bs blind hate
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I'm getting the impression you didn't read his whole interview

It states the athletic commisions that you HAVE to pay the fighter and NOT the management thats why they wont do it because they can't. YOu can only do it that way and not Golden Glory's way

Jeeze, some Dana White haters can be too much with their bs blind hate
The thing is: i don't believe one word Dana White says regarding this situation!

This is ZUFFA's way of making a statement.

They did it in the past with Fitch/AKA and now with Golden Glory.

And they're gonna do it in the future also.

The principle is simple: "You're with us or against us"

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It states the athletic commisions that you HAVE to pay the fighter and NOT the management thats why they wont do it because they can't. YOu can only do it that way and not Golden Glory's way
I don't think Golden Glory's management is stupid enough to ask for something that's impossible...

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