Herb Dean Defends His Stoppage in the Hendo vs. Fedor Fight - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.

Reply

Old 08-03-2011, 02:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
Lightweight
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Flint,Michigan
Posts: 1,806
Wookie is on another level nowWookie is on another level nowWookie is on another level nowWookie is on another level nowWookie is on another level nowWookie is on another level nowWookie is on another level nowWookie is on another level nowWookie is on another level nowWookie is on another level nowWookie is on another level now
Herb Dean Defends His Stoppage in the Hendo vs. Fedor Fight

http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/08/0...n-fedor-fight/

When Dan Henderson made Fedor Emelianenko fall face-first into the canvas with a hard shot to the chin on Saturday night, referee Herb Dean had a split-second decision to make on whether or not to step in and stop the fight. Dean chose to stop it, awarding Henderson the victory by technical knockout, but Emelianenko said after the fight that Dean's decision was the wrong one, and that he could have kept fighting.

On Monday's MMA Hour, Dean defended his call, saying that Fedor was unconscious when Henderson connected with the punch, and as a result Dean had no choice but to stop the fight.

"I saw Dan hit Fedor with a shot, Fedor fell down flat on his face, face down, his palms were facing up and I saw Dan continuing to punch," Dean said. "He hit him with, I believe, three punches, and I didn't see Fedor doing any movement. It seemed to me he was unconscious. I came in to stop the fight."

Dean said that although he had to make the decision instantly, he watched the replay of the stoppage and stands by his decision with the benefit of hindsight.

"When I made my decision to stop the fight, Fedor was face down, unconscious. When I touched Dan, Fedor was still face down. Once I touch him the fight is over," Dean said.

Dean has also faced some criticism from fans who said Henderson illegally hit Fedor in the back of the head at the end of the fight, but Dean said he saw no fouls there.

"I saw punches that may have been close," Dean said. "But I wouldn't have called those fouls because the way the action was moving, I couldn't say that he intentionally targeted that area."

Ultimately, Dean said, he's very comfortable with his decision to protect Fedor from further damage.

"Fedor was unconscious and unable to defend himself," Dean said.

Although fans watching from home didn't know it, Dean's stoppage was actually the second controversial call he made on Saturday night. In an un-televised undercard bout between Bobby Green and JZ Cavalcante, some fans thought Green had tapped out while Cavalcante had him in a choke. In reality, Dean says, the motion some fans thought was tapping was actually Green signaling to Dean that he was still conscious and not in danger of passing out from the choke.

"It was a very clear thumbs up," Dean said. "I got down close to the mat so I could see his face, made some effort to communicate with him, and he gave me a thumbs-up, clear as day."

Dean said he knows fans don't always agree with referees' decisions, noting that "Sometimes in doing my job I'm not going to be a popular guy." But after a night on which Dean faced major questions about the way he refereed, Dean says he can stand by the calls he made.

I can't really disagree with Herb he had the best view and in my opinion made the right call.
Wookie is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 08-03-2011, 02:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
Flyweight
 
King JLB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Montreal, QC
Posts: 457
King JLB is a glorious beacon of lightKing JLB is a glorious beacon of lightKing JLB is a glorious beacon of lightKing JLB is a glorious beacon of lightKing JLB is a glorious beacon of lightKing JLB is a glorious beacon of lightKing JLB is a glorious beacon of lightKing JLB is a glorious beacon of lightKing JLB is a glorious beacon of lightKing JLB is a glorious beacon of lightKing JLB is a glorious beacon of light
He was 100% right in the stoppage. Most fans know that Fedor recovers insanely well, but he was done and took some undefended shots (albeit to the back of the head).

That was a sweet uppercut from behind, and this is coming from a Fedor fan.
King JLB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2011, 06:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
SPEED KILLS
 
SM33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,738
SM33 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemSM33 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemSM33 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemSM33 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemSM33 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemSM33 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemSM33 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemSM33 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemSM33 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemSM33 Is Beyond A Rankings SystemSM33 Is Beyond A Rankings System
Correct stoppage.
__________________
SM33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2011, 06:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
Heavyweight
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,705
Spec0688 is on another level nowSpec0688 is on another level nowSpec0688 is on another level nowSpec0688 is on another level nowSpec0688 is on another level nowSpec0688 is on another level nowSpec0688 is on another level nowSpec0688 is on another level nowSpec0688 is on another level nowSpec0688 is on another level nowSpec0688 is on another level now
Dean is the best ref is the business and it was a very close call, one that could have went either way given another second.
Spec0688 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2011, 06:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
Number 1 Nerf-Herder
 
Dr Gonzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,136
Dr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A Baller
Herb was spot on. I can't believe anyone would question him. I've not seen him make a mistake in any fight he has officiated.
__________________




I used to be Tyson Fury but now I'm not.
Dr Gonzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2011, 10:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
Flyweight
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 298
Nikkolai has a spectacular aura aboutNikkolai has a spectacular aura aboutNikkolai has a spectacular aura aboutNikkolai has a spectacular aura aboutNikkolai has a spectacular aura aboutNikkolai has a spectacular aura aboutNikkolai has a spectacular aura aboutNikkolai has a spectacular aura aboutNikkolai has a spectacular aura aboutNikkolai has a spectacular aura aboutNikkolai has a spectacular aura about
I know Fedor was rocked early with their I think first exchange so I think the uppercut sealed the deal. To me, Fedor looked like was in a rush to get a KO knockout for some reason and that is just asking for trouble.
Nikkolai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2011, 08:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
Bantamweight
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 937
Finnsidious is on another level nowFinnsidious is on another level nowFinnsidious is on another level nowFinnsidious is on another level nowFinnsidious is on another level nowFinnsidious is on another level nowFinnsidious is on another level nowFinnsidious is on another level nowFinnsidious is on another level nowFinnsidious is on another level nowFinnsidious is on another level now
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikkolai View Post
I know Fedor was rocked early with their I think first exchange so I think the uppercut sealed the deal. To me, Fedor looked like was in a rush to get a KO knockout for some reason and that is just asking for trouble.
I thought it was early the first time, but a good slow mo replay made it very clear it was a legit stoppage.

Fedor has been incredibly careless lately, it's the main reason he's lost against Werdum and Hendo. I seriously don't know what his problem is, but he has fought like an idiot for awhile now.

As a bit of an aside, Fedors fight against Werdum, Hendo, and Pat Barry's fight vs Kongo are all object lessons for people who criticize 'boring' fighters. Ask Fedor and Barry if they think they should have maybe traded just a little bit of excitement for something even more valuable....like consciousness.

If Fedor had been even just a little more methodical he could have won the Werdum fight for sure, and probably the Hendo one, same thing for Barry. You fight stupid, you lose.
Finnsidious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2011, 08:42 AM   #8 (permalink)
LONGHAIRED COUNTRYBOY
 
oldfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NC.
Posts: 7,526
Blog Entries: 1
oldfan Is Future HOF Materialoldfan Is Future HOF Materialoldfan Is Future HOF Materialoldfan Is Future HOF Materialoldfan Is Future HOF Materialoldfan Is Future HOF Materialoldfan Is Future HOF Materialoldfan Is Future HOF Materialoldfan Is Future HOF Materialoldfan Is Future HOF Materialoldfan Is Future HOF Material
Herb Dean = the Greatest Ref Evah!



__________________
oldfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2011, 02:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
Number 1 Nerf-Herder
 
Dr Gonzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,136
Dr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A BallerDr Gonzo Is A Baller
That monsters brawl film looks the f*cking nuts!!!
__________________




I used to be Tyson Fury but now I'm not.
Dr Gonzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2011, 11:50 PM   #10 (permalink)
CoutureCop
 
Davisty69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 6,091
Davisty69 Is Destined For GreatnessDavisty69 Is Destined For GreatnessDavisty69 Is Destined For GreatnessDavisty69 Is Destined For GreatnessDavisty69 Is Destined For GreatnessDavisty69 Is Destined For GreatnessDavisty69 Is Destined For GreatnessDavisty69 Is Destined For GreatnessDavisty69 Is Destined For GreatnessDavisty69 Is Destined For GreatnessDavisty69 Is Destined For Greatness
Stoppage was fine, shots to the back of the head were bullshit. He can downplay them all he wants, but they are not acceptable.
__________________

Check out MMAforum.com's
Top 25 Fights to show a new MMA fan!!

http://www.mmaforum.com/ufc/69374-to...ml#post1079252
Davisty69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
Powered by vBulletin Copyright 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios