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09-11-2011, 05:25 PM
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#171 (permalink)
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The Recipe
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Originally Posted by Mirage445
Maybe we'll get to see Mo vs Rampage within the year if Rampage loses twice and Mo goes on a short streak.
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With Mo getting knocked into oblivion of course. I'm a small fan of Mo but not at all impressed with his striking.
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09-11-2011, 05:33 PM
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#172 (permalink)
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The Title Guy
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Yeah, but Mo doesn't have a weak chin. Granted he can be knocked out but I don't think Rampage is going to do it. That's all.
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09-11-2011, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kantowrestler
Maybe that'll be King Mo's last match before they fold into the UFC. The man that gets the win is guarenteed a shot in the UFC. Looser isn't guarenteed anything whatsoever!
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If you ask me both Feijao and Mo would be top 5 LHW's in the UFC, the UFC LHW division aside from a small few is nothing much to shout about, aside from Jones in fact I think the SF LHW division is stronger.
I would love to see Rampage vs Mo in fact, I have no doubt Mo would finish him easily.
I would say only fighters in the UFC that could hang with those two are Jones and Evans,
Another great cross over fight would be Mousasi vs Machida, and I would not like Machidas chances.
In fact if you was to go
Mousasi vs Machida
Mo vs Rampage
Shogun vs Feijao
I would have my money on SF 3. UFC 0, making your top 5 LHW's Jones/Evans/Feijao/Mo/Mousasi
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09-11-2011, 07:20 PM
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#174 (permalink)
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Godless Heathen
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Originally Posted by KillerShark1985
If you ask me both Feijao and Mo would be top 5 LHW's in the UFC, the UFC LHW division aside from a small few is nothing much to shout about, aside from Jones in fact I think the SF LHW division is stronger.
I would love to see Rampage vs Mo in fact, I have no doubt Mo would finish him easily.
I would say only fighters in the UK that could hang with those two are Jones and Evans,
Another great cross over fight would be Mousasi vs Machida, and I would not like Machidas chances.
In fact if you was to go
Mousasi vs Machida
Mo vs Rampage
Shogun vs Feijao
I would have my money on SF 3. UFC 0
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Interesting matchups for sure. I think Mousasi would win a UD over Machida. Mo and Page would be really close, Mo has better wrestling and Quentin with better hands. Again I can see Mo winning a decision. Honestly though I think Shogun would run right through Feijao with a better chin and better striking.
I'd love to see any of those fights or all three for sure.
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09-11-2011, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rygu
Interesting matchups for sure. I think Mousasi would win a UD over Machida. Mo and Page would be really close, Mo has better wrestling and Quentin with better hands. Again I can see Mo winning a decision. Honestly though I think Shogun would run right through Feijao with a better chin and better striking.
I'd love to see any of those fights or all three for sure.
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You underestimate Feijao, was a bad day when he got KO'ed by Dan for sure, but Serra KO'ed GSP before sh1t happens, Shogun would have to sho up much better that he has looked in his last 2 performances, dispute winning his last fight still did not show much of that old school Shogun imo, and Feijeo is no Forest Griffin he would be a much stronger test.
would be great fights to see tho.
As for Rampage that Hamill fight was a joke, they where both as bad as each other, and if thats going to give the UFC a No.1 contender then god help that division, Rampage would have nothing on Mo, in fact I could see Mo been the closest fighter at that weight to give it a good go against Jones, Rampage is just going to get smashed.
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09-11-2011, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by KillerShark1985
I would love to see Rampage vs Mo in fact, I have no doubt Mo would finish him easily.
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Mo getting an easy finish? Don't really see that happening.
Only way Mo wins that one is laying on Page imo.
If I could relate Mo with an current UFC LHW fighter, I'd probably go with Ryan Bader.
Could he be top 10? Potentially... can't see him in top 5 though.
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09-12-2011, 03:28 AM
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#177 (permalink)
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Shogun
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Originally Posted by KillerShark1985
If you ask me both Feijao and Mo would be top 5 LHW's in the UFC, the UFC LHW division aside from a small few is nothing much to shout about, aside from Jones in fact I think the SF LHW division is stronger.
I would love to see Rampage vs Mo in fact, I have no doubt Mo would finish him easily.
I would say only fighters in the UFC that could hang with those two are Jones and Evans,
Another great cross over fight would be Mousasi vs Machida, and I would not like Machidas chances.
In fact if you was to go
Mousasi vs Machida
Mo vs Rampage
Shogun vs Feijao
I would have my money on SF 3. UFC 0, making your top 5 LHW's Jones/Evans/Feijao/Mo/Mousasi
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I would bet the other way around with UFC 3 and Strikeforce 0. Maybe Mousasi beats Machida but the others for sure no. Shogun beats Feijao 9/10 and Page beats Mo 7/10 IMO.
I think Mo & Feijao would have trouble competeing against Jones, Evans, Page, Shogun, Machida & would be pretty even with guys like Thiago Silva, Griffin, Lil Nog, Davis & Gustafsson.
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09-12-2011, 09:31 AM
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#178 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by KillerShark1985
If you ask me both Feijao and Mo would be top 5 LHW's in the UFC, the UFC LHW division aside from a small few is nothing much to shout about, aside from Jones in fact I think the SF LHW division is stronger.
I would love to see Rampage vs Mo in fact, I have no doubt Mo would finish him easily.
I would say only fighters in the UFC that could hang with those two are Jones and Evans,
Another great cross over fight would be Mousasi vs Machida, and I would not like Machidas chances.
In fact if you was to go
Mousasi vs Machida
Mo vs Rampage
Shogun vs Feijao
I would have my money on SF 3. UFC 0, making your top 5 LHW's Jones/Evans/Feijao/Mo/Mousasi
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I think it ends 2-1 UFC if not 3-0 UFC. Mousasi/Machida would be a good fight. Machida is not a wrestler so he doesn't play to Mousasi's weaknesses. Mousasi would not be nearly as successful as Machida though. Mo/Rampage ends badly for Mo. Rampage hits harder, has a great chin and good defensive wrestling. Mo's striking looked improved against Gracie but alot of that was because of a sense of security because of Gracie's relative lack of striking.Rampage would sprawl and brawl his way to an eventual knock out. As for Shogun/Feijao you must be dreaming, Feijao is skilled but the man is fairly slow and would quickly be put out by the much faster and more accurate of the two.
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09-12-2011, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Toxic
I think it ends 2-1 UFC if not 3-0 UFC. Mousasi/Machida would be a good fight. Machida is not a wrestler so he doesn't play to Mousasi's weaknesses. Mousasi would not be nearly as successful as Machida though. Mo/Rampage ends badly for Mo. Rampage hits harder, has a great chin and good defensive wrestling. Mo's striking looked improved against Gracie but alot of that was because of a sense of security because of Gracie's relative lack of striking.Rampage would sprawl and brawl his way to an eventual knock out. As for Shogun/Feijao you must be dreaming, Feijao is skilled but the man is fairly slow and would quickly be put out by the much faster and more accurate of the two.
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That's just about it. Only guy who could have a chance in those respective fights is Mousasi. He is arguably one of the best strikers in the division and so is Machida. It's a toss up really. I have yet to see any evidence that Mo's striking is something to be worried about. Feijao-Shogun is unheard of seeing as Shogun is miles ahead of Feijao. Mousasi-Shogun, now that would be something nice.
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09-12-2011, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Toxic
I think it ends 2-1 UFC if not 3-0 UFC. Mousasi/Machida would be a good fight. Machida is not a wrestler so he doesn't play to Mousasi's weaknesses. Mousasi would not be nearly as successful as Machida though. Mo/Rampage ends badly for Mo. Rampage hits harder, has a great chin and good defensive wrestling. Mo's striking looked improved against Gracie but alot of that was because of a sense of security because of Gracie's relative lack of striking.Rampage would sprawl and brawl his way to an eventual knock out. As for Shogun/Feijao you must be dreaming, Feijao is skilled but the man is fairly slow and would quickly be put out by the much faster and more accurate of the two.
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What Rampage and Shogun are you talking about here, the ones that where competing back in pride years ago or the ones that turn up ring rusty and over hyped today?
I swear I really hope that Rampage sticks around for one more fight after he gets his ass handed to him by Jones and I hope that fight is Mo's first UFC fight, because if you think Mo vs Rampage would be a close fight or an easy win for Rampage you are so very very wrong, King Mo would walk through Rampage no matter if the fight was standing or went to the ground Rampage has nothing on Mo, just like he has nothing on Jones both would smash him just as easy as the other.
in fact from all the 3 listed fights I would say the easiest to pick the winner from would be Mo vs Rampage, easy win for King Mo. the others would be more competitive for both fighters and harder to call a winner from, Shogun on form I would make fav to beat Feijao, Shogun at 80 to 90 percent may deal with most mugs in the UFC but not Feijao he would need to me 95 to 100 to take that one, Mousasi vs Machida I would wave the 50/50 flag on that one, is a great fight I would lvoe to see but would not like to pick a winner, but if Mousasi was to win it would not be a shock result to me at all.
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