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ViKtoricus 08-19-2011 04:28 AM

Any fans of Alistair Overeem in da house?
 
Hi dudes. I read somewhere that Alistair is one of the most underrated fighters in MMA. I'll have to agree...

What do you know about him aside from the fact that he can rip your ******* head off?

Jags 08-19-2011 12:18 PM

Im a fan of his but he has to fight the best and he has yet to prove he can hang with the best.

He needs to UFC.

KillerShark1985 08-19-2011 02:33 PM

I don't know I smells to me that the Reem has done some kind of back hand deal with the UFC that has lead to him not only exiting the Strikeforce GP, but also if what I think is true I think he has screwed his team mates over at Golden Glory in order to benefit more for himself.

I think the entire story and dropping of the GG team was a play to pull just the Reem out of contract deals with showtime and Strikeforce in order to get him over to the UFC before taking more risks like the possibility of losing to Big Foot.

If my theory is correct, then I think because the deal he had with Striekforce and maybe Showtime was done through his team and management then if he leave his team and management he will become a free agent and able to join the UFC.

Will be interesting to see how this pans out because I think Zuffa ditching the GG team was only the first step, I think the next step will be Overeem leaves GG under the illusion that they will not do business under Zuffa terms yet the Reem still wants to fight in the UFC making it look like his only option in order to progress with this dream is to leave GG and join another gym, in which case the next step will be the Reem does exactly this leaves his Gym and goes to train elsewhere then signs up on a big money deal with the UFC for himself and cutting all the coaches and training partners and management out of the deal who have helped him to develop into the fighter he is.

I save judgement until I see what happens next but if that does happen then I will lose respect for the guy for been a dirty back stabbing b@stard and hope so much that Big Foot goes forth and wins the Strikeforce GP to then follow up by following the Reem to the UFC and getting the Reem fight which right now should rightfully be his, and I hope Big Foot becomes the man to give Overeem a serious lesson in respect by beating the cr@p out of him.

WAR BIG FOOT

Talent wise I have no doubt the Reem has got it but if your not going to stay true to the guys that made you what you are today and worse still cut a back hand deal that screws all your team mates out of there contracts in order to benefit more for just yourself, then I don't care how much talent you have as a fighter you will never have my support.

kantowrestler 08-19-2011 08:38 PM

I think it's a little far fetched to say that Overeem backstabbed his own brother. We will find out overtime though. If he did do that then it's a surprise to me I will tell you.

beardsleybob 08-19-2011 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerShark1985 (Post 1457056)
I don't know I smells to me that the Reem has done some kind of back hand deal with the UFC that has lead to him not only exiting the Strikeforce GP, but also if what I think is true I think he has screwed his team mates over at Golden Glory in order to benefit more for himself.

I think the entire story and dropping of the GG team was a play to pull just the Reem out of contract deals with showtime and Strikeforce in order to get him over to the UFC before taking more risks like the possibility of losing to Big Foot.

If my theory is correct, then I think because the deal he had with Striekforce and maybe Showtime was done through his team and management then if he leave his team and management he will become a free agent and able to join the UFC.

Will be interesting to see how this pans out because I think Zuffa ditching the GG team was only the first step, I think the next step will be Overeem leaves GG under the illusion that they will not do business under Zuffa terms yet the Reem still wants to fight in the UFC making it look like his only option in order to progress with this dream is to leave GG and join another gym, in which case the next step will be the Reem does exactly this leaves his Gym and goes to train elsewhere then signs up on a big money deal with the UFC for himself and cutting all the coaches and training partners and management out of the deal who have helped him to develop into the fighter he is.

I save judgement until I see what happens next but if that does happen then I will lose respect for the guy for been a dirty back stabbing b@stard and hope so much that Big Foot goes forth and wins the Strikeforce GP to then follow up by following the Reem to the UFC and getting the Reem fight which right now should rightfully be his, and I hope Big Foot becomes the man to give Overeem a serious lesson in respect by beating the cr@p out of him.

WAR BIG FOOT

Talent wise I have no doubt the Reem has got it but if your not going to stay true to the guys that made you what you are today and worse still cut a back hand deal that screws all your team mates out of there contracts in order to benefit more for just yourself, then I don't care how much talent you have as a fighter you will never have my support.

You have a good point on the showtime deal, but Kanto also has a good point regarding Valentijn. Then again he has a mediocre record and despite his experience, doesn't have the MMA skills to make any waves with Zuffa.

I'm all for Overeem leaving GG, as his ground game suffers from training with a team that focuses primarily on kickboxing. But if he is leaving on these terms, then its a dickhead move and would be a very selfish career decision. They've all lost their jobs with Zuffa, all he'd lose is K1 and Dream bouts, hardly a fair deal on the likes of JOE and Kharinotov :sarcastic12:

UFC_OWNS 08-19-2011 11:26 PM

bigfoot is shit he will lose to cormier just you watch, barnett and cormier are the 2 best sf heavyweights

KillerShark1985 08-19-2011 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kantowrestler (Post 1457265)
I think it's a little far fetched to say that Overeem backstabbed his own brother. We will find out overtime though. If he did do that then it's a surprise to me I will tell you.

His Brothers Career was over anyway the second he pissed his pants and taped out because Griggs gave him a dirty look, I mean come on seriously was Zuffa ever going to let him fight for them again after that, seriously I seen people tap out to strikes a little easy before but that was the first time where you could actually argue a strong case that the method of submission used was a dirty look.

Maybe his brother knew he was finished and was never going to get a UFC contract anyway, so maybe the Reem offered to see him right in the name of brother love and all that, seriously think about this next part what has his brother really lost out on, Striekforce is dead and during the rest of its short existence how many more times do you think Valentijn was going to appear on the cards anyway if any.

Maybe he is just happy for his brother to pull in a huge UFC contract that he would never get offered himself, and let his brother see him right so he can retire.

kantowrestler 08-20-2011 01:42 AM

Ok, the WFA, Pride and the WEC are dead. Strikeforce is dying but not completely dead. And to explain Val into that whole conspiracy isn't legit.

Intermission 08-20-2011 02:11 AM

Bellator will RISE! But will fall when Zuffa buys them.

kantowrestler 08-20-2011 09:36 PM

I'm not sure if Bellator will be bout out by Zuffa. As far as I know they have been going now where but up. Depending on what Viacom wants to do with Spike and MTV2 Bellator might go to Spike.


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