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Old 08-19-2011, 08:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Maybe you should get into a better gym.

There is very rarely any "low life loser" or "meatheads" at my gym. And whenever a guy does stroll in like that he washes out in a week if that.

The attitude of the guys in a gym is based completely off the owner of the gym, if everyone in there is a meathead and a douchebag, that speaks volume about the gym owner.
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Old 08-19-2011, 09:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yeah, a good gym won't have jackasses like that around. In a good gym the bad fighters will wash out and the good fighters will stick with it. Unfortunately MMA has attracted some white trash.
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Old 08-19-2011, 10:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Personally I resent the OP's negative tone towards Muay Thai and MMA gyms. Sure a lot of gyms do attract some unwelcome attention, but that happens in any sport. People get into it for the wrong reason. They portray themselves as some alpha male and inevitably it bites them in the ass. They learn to behave and the problem disappears. No reason to tar everyone else with the same brush. My MT gym has a very nice environment, very little problems and we have fun. Like I said we do get a few posers from time to time but they don't stay long.
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:50 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Yeah, not all muay thai and MMA gyms are scum magnates. Like I said this is a sport that attracts jerks who are trying to be macho men. In time their attitudes catch up to them.
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Old 08-20-2011, 06:06 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Maybe you should get into a better gym.

There is very rarely any "low life loser" or "meatheads" at my gym. And whenever a guy does stroll in like that he washes out in a week if that.

The attitude of the guys in a gym is based completely off the owner of the gym, if everyone in there is a meathead and a douchebag, that speaks volume about the gym owner.
Same experience and advice here. A good trainer knows that these kind of wannabe tough douchebags are not good for his gym. Neither are they going to be good competitors to represent the gym, because usually they don't commit to the training and just want to bang without technique, nor are they good for the other people to train with, because they don't respect their training partners' health. So a good trainer makes them leave the gym soon one way or the other, either by telling them directly that they don't fit to gym or by making the training very uncomfortable for them.
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Personally I resent the OP's negative tone towards Muay Thai and MMA gyms. Sure a lot of gyms do attract some unwelcome attention, but that happens in any sport. People get into it for the wrong reason. They portray themselves as some alpha male and inevitably it bites them in the ass. They learn to behave and the problem disappears. No reason to tar everyone else with the same brush. My MT gym has a very nice environment, very little problems and we have fun. Like I said we do get a few posers from time to time but they don't stay long.
I completely agree, what I get from the OP is that this guy seems to think because he been training longer that new guys who have probably gained interest in training Muay Thai or MMA though the growing populating of the sport are somehow not welcome and don't deserve to train at his gym, and he just chooses to look down on them as losers only in it to try and act tough.

Now maybe his gym has been over run by a group of ass holes who knows how can we judge since we have never met the guys in question that he is labelling, but the ball could swing the other way also and it could be the case like a said above where he just decided to foresee them in that way when really they are just ok guys with a love for the sport who chose to join a gym because they felt training in MMA could be fun and/or a good way to keep fit, which are both true fact Training MMA is fun and a good way to keep fit even for those who have no intention of ever competing.

I can only speak for the gym I train at when I say that guys sometimes come and go, sometimes new people start up and chose to say, some have targets and join to maybe get them self in shape or to just learn enough to give them some basic fight knowledge then leave after they have reached the targets they set for themselves, but all are welcome whatever there reason for joining and as long as they follow the instructions for the lesson and understand they are in a training session and not a competitive fight, for example in sparing some blows are saved for the bags or when rolling GnP is forbidden aside from a few jabs to the ribs or legs of your opponent in our gym, if you want to practice GnP to the head then you hit the floor next to the head no the person, if anyone was to break that rule and start smashing down elbows and strikes to there opponents head like in a real match then they would be out quicker than they could run and never be allowed back.

But then that has never happened where I go, all new guys are welcome and given there chance as long as they follow the rules set for the sessions which can vary from session to session depending on the purpose of the session, and if anyone new feels they they are not quite ready to engage in the full acceptance of the session for example sparing but they want to just body spar and not get hit in the head, then its down to there training partner to respect that and stay within a level where there training partner feels comfortable. and like I say I have never seem anyone break these boundaries in training, so all have always been welcome and have worked together to help develop each other without resentment coming from ether new starters or guys in there who have been training for years against the new starters.
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I completely agree, what I get from the OP is that this guy seems to think because he been training longer that new guys who have probably gained interest in training Muay Thai or MMA though the growing populating of the sport are somehow not welcome and don't deserve to train at his gym, and he just chooses to look down on them as losers only in it to try and act tough.

Now maybe his gym has been over run by a group of ass holes who knows how can we judge since we have never met the guys in question that he is labelling, but the ball could swing the other way also and it could be the case like a said above where he just decided to foresee them in that way when really they are just ok guys with a love for the sport who chose to join a gym because they felt training in MMA could be fun and/or a good way to keep fit, which are both true fact Training MMA is fun and a good way to keep fit even for those who have no intention of ever competing.

I can only speak for the gym I train at when I say that guys sometimes come and go, sometimes new people start up and chose to say, some have targets and join to maybe get them self in shape or to just learn enough to give them some basic fight knowledge then leave after they have reached the targets they set for themselves, but all are welcome whatever there reason for joining and as long as they follow the instructions for the lesson and understand they are in a training session and not a competitive fight, for example in sparing some blows are saved for the bags or when rolling GnP is forbidden aside from a few jabs to the ribs or legs of your opponent in our gym, if you want to practice GnP to the head then you hit the floor next to the head no the person, if anyone was to break that rule and start smashing down elbows and strikes to there opponents head like in a real match then they would be out quicker than they could run and never be allowed back.

But then that has never happened where I go, all new guys are welcome and given there chance as long as they follow the rules set for the sessions which can vary from session to session depending on the purpose of the session, and if anyone new feels they they are not quite ready to engage in the full acceptance of the session for example sparing but they want to just body spar and not get hit in the head, then its down to there training partner to respect that and stay within a level where there training partner feels comfortable. and like I say I have never seem anyone break these boundaries in training, so all have always been welcome and have worked together to help develop each other without resentment coming from ether new starters or guys in there who have been training for years against the new starters.
well i changed from my gym because it was run by an asshole douchebag and that reflected on most of the fighters there, and he wouldnt give me a chance to knock someones teeth down there throat in the long time i was there and he gave me useless information and no answers when i asked questions.

so i moved to the famous gracie barra BJJ and wow what a contrast and much better place, the exact opposite of the other joint. change gyms if you got a knob gym
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Old 08-20-2011, 08:42 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Yeah, if the owner was like that then that change was well overdue. Gracie Barra is a much better change though. Keep it up there.
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Old 08-22-2011, 11:02 PM   #19 (permalink)
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haha, I remember when the UFC was on here in Australia. My brother came up for the weekend with his wife and we took them out shopping and for lunch around the Casino here in Sydney. The amount of drop kicks all tatooed up and drunk, carrying around bottles of beer and wine and smashing them and nearly fighting was a disgrace. Luckily at the stadium, despite the average person looking similar, they were actually well behaved. The drunken drop kicks probably never made it to the arena.

That's my little story, not really related to the gym, but somewhat to the general person involved. Generally the real fighters are a lot more humble though, these are just the fans who live vicariously through the fighters and then behave like Joonie Browning, training in their heads but never fighting so they can always say 'I would have kicked that guys azz'!

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Old 08-22-2011, 11:54 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Yeah, the UFC always brings rowdy fight fans wherever they go. That is unfortunately a problem that comes with the sport. The reason why they were probably well behaved is because otherwise they would've been kicked out.
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