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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-31-2011, 09:27 AM Thread Starter
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Latest Sherdog MMA Rankings: Your thoughts?

HW Rankings:
  1. Cain Valesquez
  2. Junior Dos Santos
  3. Alistair Overeem
  4. Fabricio Werdum
  5. Brock Lesnar
  6. Shane Carwin
  7. Frank Mir
  8. Antonio Silva
  9. Antonio Rodrigo Nogurira
  10. Josh Barnett

LHW:
  1. Jon Jones
  2. Mauricio Rua
  3. Rashad Evans
  4. Quinton Jackson
  5. Lyoto Machida
  6. Phil Davis
  7. Forrest Griffin
  8. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
  9. Dan Henderson
  10. Rafeal Cavalcanti

MW:
  1. Anderson Silva
  2. Chael Sonnen
  3. Yushin Okami
  4. Nate Marquardt
  5. Ronaldo Souza
  6. Mark Munoz
  7. Damian Maia
  8. Brian Stann
  9. Michael Bisping
  10. Vitor Belfort

WW:
  1. Goerges St. Pierre
  2. Jon Fitch
  3. Jake Sheilds
  4. Josh Koschek
  5. Nick Diaz
  6. Carlos Condit
  7. Charlie Brenneman
  8. Rick Story
  9. B.J. Penn
  10. Johny Hendricks

LW:
  1. Frankie Edgar
  2. Gilbert Melendez
  3. Gray Maynard
  4. Shinya Aoki
  5. Eddie Alvarez
  6. Benson Henderson
  7. Jim Miller
  8. Clay Guida
  9. Anthony Peetis
  10. Melvin Guillard

FW:
  1. Jose Aldo
  2. Hatsu Hioki
  3. Chad Mendes
  4. Kenny Florian
  5. Pat Curran
  6. Marlon Sandro
  7. Diego Nunes
  8. Joe Warren
  9. Tyson Griffin
  10. Manny Gamburyan

BW:
  1. Dominick Cruz
  2. Joseph Benavidez
  3. Urijah Faber
  4. Brian Bowles
  5. Scott Jorgensen
  6. Demetrious Johnson
  7. Miguel Torres
  8. Brad Picket
  9. Maskatsu Ueda
  10. Takeya Mizugaki

Kenny Florian shooting up to number four after 1 fight shows how thin the FW division is.

Get ready to see Vitor Belfort move up the MW rankings quickly, I think the only MWs ranked above him that can beat him are Anderson Silva (obviously) and Chael Sonnen.

It also will not be long before Rory MacDonald is in the top ten. I think a fight with Johny Hendricks or Rick Story would be a good way to get him in there.

I also beleive Barnett will move up the HW rankings. I think he is back and is a handfull for any HW in the world.

Can we just get Eddie Avarez, Ben Askren, Gilbert Melendez, and Jacare in the UFC already? Is that too much to ask?

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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-31-2011, 09:46 AM
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For the most part the right people seem to be on the lists, just not in the right order. Better than usual I guess.
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post #3 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-31-2011, 09:55 AM
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Looks like someone placed the champs at #1, the next contenders at #2, assigned numbers to the most well known fighters and then rolled a dice.

So yeah, it's accurate.




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I agree that the correct names are there, but the order is a bit off.

Florians Name is probobly a good reason he is at #4 at FW.

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I'm a big Phil Davis fan but, it doesn't seem right having him ahead of Forrest and Hendo.(after he beats Machida)

I do like seeing Stann above Bisping and Belfort.
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HW Rankings:
  1. Cain Valesquez
  2. Junior Dos Santos
  3. Alistair Overeem
  4. Fabricio Werdum
  5. Brock Lesnar
  6. Shane Carwin
  7. Frank Mir
  8. Antonio Silva
  9. Antonio Rodrigo Nogurira
  10. Josh Barnett

- Switch Werdum and Brock. Brock was just champ in the UFC and his only non avenged loss was to the #1 man. Werdum lost to 2 and 3.

-In terms of skill Barnett should be a good margin higher but he's got to beat the guys above him in order to move up.



LHW:
  1. Jon Jones
  2. Mauricio Rua
  3. Rashad Evans
  4. Quinton Jackson
  5. Lyoto Machida
  6. Phil Davis
  7. Forrest Griffin
  8. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
  9. Dan Henderson
  10. Rafeal Cavalcanti

-I'd switch Evans and Shogun. Shogun got brutally defeated by the champ and Evans looks phenomenal.

-I'd also put Henderson above Forrest and lil Nog.

MW:
  1. Anderson Silva
  2. Chael Sonnen
  3. Yushin Okami
  4. Nate Marquardt
  5. Ronaldo Souza
  6. Mark Munoz
  7. Damian Maia
  8. Brian Stann
  9. Michael Bisping
  10. Vitor Belfort

-Vitor just fought for the title so I'm not sure if he deserves his spot but his wins lately are against guys who aren't on this list so I suppose its fair. If anything, I'd switch him and Bisping.

WW:
  1. Goerges St. Pierre
  2. Jon Fitch
  3. Jake Sheilds
  4. Josh Koschek
  5. Nick Diaz
  6. Carlos Condit
  7. Charlie Brenneman
  8. Rick Story
  9. B.J. Penn
  10. Johny Hendricks

-I'd switch Kos and Diaz
-Then I'd switch Kos and Condit
-Hendricks beat Brenneman so I dont see how Charlie makes this list. Move everyone up a rank to fill in the whole Charlie leaves and then give Rory the 10 spot.
-Charlie would be 11th
-Anthony Johnson would be 12th

LW:
  1. Frankie Edgar
  2. Gilbert Melendez
  3. Gray Maynard
  4. Shinya Aoki
  5. Eddie Alvarez
  6. Benson Henderson
  7. Jim Miller
  8. Clay Guida
  9. Anthony Peetis
  10. Melvin Guillard

-Aoki is great but he shouldn't be on this list. Got dominated by Melendez. He DID beat Alvarez but that was 3 years ago before Eddie became champ.
-Too much wrong with this list so I'll redo it:

1. Frankie
2. Maynard
3. Melendez
4. Henderson
5. Miller
6. Guida
7. Pettis
8. Guillard
9. Alvarez
10. Cerrone


FW:
  1. Jose Aldo
  2. Hatsu Hioki
  3. Chad Mendes
  4. Kenny Florian
  5. Pat Curran
  6. Marlon Sandro
  7. Diego Nunes
  8. Joe Warren
  9. Tyson Griffin
  10. Manny Gamburyan

-I love Hioki but he hasn't even had his first fight in the UFC yet so he doesn't deserve the 2 spot.
- No hominick??
-I have to redo this list as well it seems:

1. Aldo
2. Mendes
3. Florian
4. Hominick
5. Hioki
6. Curran
7. Nunes
8. Griffin
9. Gamburyan
10. Warren

BW:
  1. Dominick Cruz
  2. Joseph Benavidez
  3. Urijah Faber
  4. Brian Bowles
  5. Scott Jorgensen
  6. Demetrious Johnson
  7. Miguel Torres
  8. Brad Picket
  9. Maskatsu Ueda
  10. Takeya Mizugaki

- I'd switch mighty mouse and Jorgensen and then MAYBE jorgensen and Torres.
- Good list other than that I'd say

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We should have more active rankings, I think they would be among the most accurate if we kept them updated.
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Looks good but:
Anderson Silva
Chael Sonnen
Yushin Okami
Nate Marquardt
Ronaldo Souza
Mark Munoz
Damian Maia
Brian Stann
Michael Bisping
Vitor Belfort
Seems a little off to me. Id be more inclined to have

Anderson
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Okami
Belfort
Munoz
Maia
Souza
Stann
Bisping
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As always they seem more based on where guys are on "the ladder" and who beat who more so than who is actually the best fighters.

The WW rankings are particularly funny. Charlie Brenneman ahead of BJ Penn, Rory MacDonald, Rumble, and Thiago Alves is a joke.

Werdum at 4, Feijao at 10, Marquardt at 4, Story at 8, and Gamburyan at 9 are too high for sure.

Belfort, Guillard and Hendo are underrated. Gustafsson, Rory Mac, and Hominick are all top 10 IMO.




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I LOL'd hard at Brenneman at no. 7.

Also: Aoki is not a TOP 10 fighter, until he fights a TOP guy.
The only TOP fighter he's fought recently - Melendez - tooled him.

The BW rankings are the most pricese imo.

Other thatn that, what can you say: rankings are made by normal people, who happen to be MMA fans, just like the rest of us. And they tend to be subjective, no matter what their creators would say.

That's why, MMA FIghting's rankings are different. And MMA Weekly's rankings a re a bit differet...and so on.

You get the idea.

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