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Old 02-26-2007, 04:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is Alistair Overeem all done?

Will we see him fight in Pride again? His stand up looked good and he was good in the clinch, but he proved once again that he still has no guard. None, zero, zilch. He just lay there not moving his hips or head at all waiting for Shogun to hit him with a cannon blast. Mauricio kindly obliged him . Maybe he thought Shogun would be handicapped in that spot because of NSAC rules? Not so, Alistair, not so.

That's 3 straight losses for Alistair and 4 out of his last 5 fights. Granted all the losses were against cream of the crop guys, but he hasn't shown any signs of improving his ground defense. I know Shogun is really good on the ground, but Alistair looked downright pathetic (again). I personally think it's time for Overeem to take a step down in competition. It's obvious he can't beat the top guys in Pride right now, maybe dropping down to a lesser league he can get some wins and, for god's sake, work on his guard.
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Old 02-26-2007, 07:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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ye alistair sux hard, he needs to retire, everyone knew he was going to lose again
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Old 02-26-2007, 07:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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well allistair should have kicked up at shoguns face. what sux is every time I see shogun fight..he fights a bum. Too bad he wont go to UFC, and get his ass kicked by chuck.
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Old 02-26-2007, 10:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
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well allistair should have kicked up at shoguns face. what sux is every time I see shogun fight..he fights a bum. Too bad he wont go to UFC, and get his ass kicked by chuck.
lol right...
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:20 AM   #5 (permalink)
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well allistair should have kicked up at shoguns face. what sux is every time I see shogun fight..he fights a bum. Too bad he wont go to UFC, and get his ass kicked by chuck.
Overeem a bum? Are you kidding me? Just a little FYI Chuck had a tougher time with Alistair than Shogun did. Alistair is no bum. Theres no shame in losing to the best all the time. Hes still a very young guy with alot of skill. In no way is he finished.
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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well allistair should have kicked up at shoguns face. what sux is every time I see shogun fight..he fights a bum. Too bad he wont go to UFC, and get his ass kicked by chuck.

lets calm down here... a bum? wow

Like sirdilznik said, overeem has no guard, but the rest of it top notch. he was beating shogun until it went down, just like the last time they fought.

Retire for overeem? no way. hes 26-27, he has a very long record of fighting, he started when he was 19-20, and he still has a few years ahead of him.

Yeah hes lost 4 out of 5 fight. but out of 4, 2 of them were "unlucky" loses. against arona, we all saw what happened. Against werdum, he was going to leave with decision victory until he got sub.. and yeah it was werdum's speciality, but still, overeem did great.

Overeem keeps deceiving a lot, but i hope hes not going to stop fighting in pride.. but at the same time, hes fought every1 at 205, and didnt win once. Maybe silva vs overeem one day? that would be awesome.

But anyways, overeem said he would eventually like to fight as a heavyweight. I dont think its a good idea for him, but i guess he doesnt have much choice anymore..
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Overeem a bum? Are you kidding me? Just a little FYI Chuck had a tougher time with Alistair than Shogun did. Alistair is no bum. Theres no shame in losing to the best all the time. Hes still a very young guy with alot of skill. In no way is he finished.

good post, i just remembered how chuck was getting tooled by those knees, then caught a wild overhand right on overeem..
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Dont listen to doomed he is an MMA noob who has never watched a Pride Event and has no idea who Shogun is other than the fight finder on sherdog. Ill give you Shogun's hit list in case you dont know. Ricardo Arona, Rampage(killed ur boy Chuck),Rogerio Nogueria,Overeem, Randleman, Nakamura. Yea he only fights CANS.. .. I thought I told you to stay in the UFC section you NOOB!
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Dont listen to doomed he is an MMA noob who has never watched a Pride Event and has no idea who Shogun is other than the fight finder on sherdog. Ill give you Shogun's hit list in case you dont know. Ricardo Arona, Rampage(killed ur boy Chuck),Rogerio Nogueria,Overeem, Randleman, Nakamura. Yea he only fights CANS.. .. I thought I told you to stay in the UFC section you NOOB!
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:42 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Come on guys, Alistair is done and needs to retire? He's barely gonna be 27 in May. He still has alot of fights left in him. Sure he's lost his last 3 fights in a row, but those fights were to Shogun, Arona, and Rogerio Nogueira. Not many fighters are beating those 3 lately(besides Sokoudjou). Overeem definitely has some holes in his game, but I don't think he's done yet.
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