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Budhisten 10-15-2011 10:14 AM

Vinny Magalhaes' arm CANNOT be broken! Unbelievable!
 


If anyone knows how to apply an armbar it's Werdum... This is just crazy stupid, how he isn't injured from this I will never know!

AmdM 10-15-2011 10:35 AM

I guess it's the fabric that's kind of slippery taking Werdum's grip on the twist and allowing vinnie to turn his arm against the lock.

Life B Ez 10-17-2011 04:56 PM

That's pretty sick and I'm not about to go on a hate on Werdrum tangent here, the guy is one of the best grapplers in the world, but that armbar was a little sloppy.

He had his feet crossed and he wasn't using his legs to pull Magalhaes arm toward him and it looked like he was a little deep in on the arm, not to mention he didn't pinch his knees all that much.

The rash guard looked like it played into that a lot though, Werdum couldn't get his arm positioned properly so that his hips could flex to break it, which is why you should use your legs to pull the arm out some, you don't need to lift your hips nearly as far for the same pressure. Oh and it didn't look like Werdum ever actually tried to break it.

kantowrestler 10-17-2011 05:05 PM

This is one of those situations where how you fight in a MMA fight versus a regular grappling match come into play. That being said some guys have really tough limbs or workout those specific areas.

AmdM 10-18-2011 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Life B Ez (Post 1488382)
That's pretty sick and I'm not about to go on a hate on Werdrum tangent here, the guy is one of the best grapplers in the world, but that armbar was a little sloppy.

He had his feet crossed and he wasn't using his legs to pull Magalhaes arm toward him and it looked like he was a little deep in on the arm, not to mention he didn't pinch his knees all that much.

The rash guard looked like it played into that a lot though, Werdum couldn't get his arm positioned properly so that his hips could flex to break it, which is why you should use your legs to pull the arm out some, you don't need to lift your hips nearly as far for the same pressure. Oh and it didn't look like Werdum ever actually tried to break it.

Bolded part it's prabably right.
Werdum knew he was winning, so he probably opted for saving Vinny's arm.

UFC_OWNS 10-18-2011 09:15 AM

vinny won that fight too and won the division title because he beat werdum

The Lone Wolf 10-18-2011 10:17 AM

Everyones an expert it seems :sarcastic09:

Thems some pretty bendy limbs he's got there!

Drogo 10-18-2011 03:04 PM

If you watch Vinny's wrist he manages to keep his palm down (or mostly down) the whole time which helps a lot. He also keeps his body sideways rather than on his back so his shoulder off the floor so his shoulder is taking some of the pressure rather than his elbow. Still impressive but I can see why he didn't have to tap.

kantowrestler 10-18-2011 03:53 PM

Yeah, it's all about redirecting things to another way and stuff.

Life B Ez 10-18-2011 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AmdM (Post 1488684)
Bolded part it's prabably right.
Werdum knew he was winning, so he probably opted for saving Vinny's arm.

True, but Werdum ended up losing...sooo.....I'd say break it. The guy can tap at any time, it's his choice not to.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Wolf (Post 1488704)
Everyones an expert it seems :sarcastic09:

Not claiming to be an expert, that is like a day one level armbar, anyone with just a little bit of time in can tell you how to execute that armbar, now finishing a world class grappler, that's a different story.

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Originally Posted by Drogo (Post 1488809)
If you watch Vinny's wrist he manages to keep his palm down (or mostly down) the whole time which helps a lot. He also keeps his body sideways rather than on his back so his shoulder off the floor so his shoulder is taking some of the pressure rather than his elbow. Still impressive but I can see why he didn't have to tap.

Exactly what I was saying about Werdum not controlling his body with his legs and allowing him to rotate his arm. Simmilar to GSP v Hardy, where it looked like it was in so deep and how could he escape, but in reality he was never in very serious danger of having his arm broken because of the angle he got his arm to. It hurt that's for damn sure, but it would have taken so much to actually break his arm that he was able to not tap.


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