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Old 10-18-2011, 10:26 PM   #11 (permalink)

 
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How can Fitch be #8 and the guy who is considerably smaller who Fitch was lucky gassed enough to let him back in the fight goes unranked.
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Old 10-18-2011, 10:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Heat of the moment probably for Dana as to why he gave "The Answer" the #2 spot ahead of GSP. Maybe it was a msg to GSP to start finishing fights. Who knows...

Pretty much agree with the list although you can interchange JBJ with Jose at the #3 spot. Man...what happened to Fedor. Stupid dum M-1 d-bags!
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Old 10-18-2011, 10:42 PM   #13 (permalink)
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GSP would have zero chance of beating Cruz, Aldo, or Edgar if they were the same size which is what a P4P list is supposed to be about. This is a who has had the most impressive run list.
People get this impression because lighter guy's move faster. The lighter weights can get out of many bad situations simply because of their speed and size. This makes it seem like they have less holes in their game. (you see edgar and cruz stopping take downs like it's easy). The problem is that when you say "If they were the same size, then..." When guy's get bigger they have more explosive, stronger take downs and scarier striking power and they lose a little bit of quick in and out speed like Edgar shows. (which is what makes him potent)

The heavier you get the more dangerous things are and that's why people perceive heavier guy's as having worse technique when they get dominated.
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:16 PM   #14 (permalink)
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How can Fitch be #8 and the guy who is considerably smaller who Fitch was lucky gassed enough to let him back in the fight goes unranked.
Because Fitch has been far more impressive while BJ has lost twice to Edgar before moving to WW, and in the end, the fight is a draw which means neither fighter won. If GSP loses to Condit, does he fall of the top 10? no.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:03 PM   #15 (permalink)
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People get this impression because lighter guy's move faster. The lighter weights can get out of many bad situations simply because of their speed and size. This makes it seem like they have less holes in their game. (you see edgar and cruz stopping take downs like it's easy). The problem is that when you say "If they were the same size, then..." When guy's get bigger they have more explosive, stronger take downs and scarier striking power and they lose a little bit of quick in and out speed like Edgar shows. (which is what makes him potent)

The heavier you get the more dangerous things are and that's why people perceive heavier guy's as having worse technique when they get dominated.
I can watch fighters and evaluate their skills. Edgar, Cruz, and Aldo all have superior technique to GSP and a natural rhythm to how they fight that GSP lacks. GSP has great timing on his takedowns(Not as good as Cruz) but when he is striking or on the ground he looks like a robot and is clearly over thinking everything he does. GSP flat out does not have the defensive or offensive striking skills of any of those three and the gap is enormous.

GSP enjoys a speed advantage over most of his opponents as well so I don't see how that is even relevant outside of Edgar who is the only one of the three who isn't huge for his weight class and would still be very fast for a FW. They are all naturally superior athletes that wouldn't magically disappear if they happened to grow a few more inches. If Cruz were 6'1" and fighting at MW he would have elite speed for a MW. These aren't guys who are fast because they weigh less they have elite quickness compared with fighters of the same size.
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Melendez? Really?

I agree with 1-7, and Fitch at 8, but Melendez doesn't belong on that list.
100% agree, i think Maynard would beat Melendez
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