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General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.
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02-27-2007, 01:13 AM
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Will Pride 33 help MMA in general?
Pride 33 was an awesome event. I don't know how much money it made (and will make), but if the quality of the product translates into sales then it should be gold. I know I told every MMA or even semi-MMA fan I know about it and told them to order a replay, most of them had already heard from others (or seen it) and were psyched to order it already. My thinking is that if Pride 33 does indeed turn out to be a financial success (it is already a great success with fans), maybe that will force the UFC to step up the quality of their cards. UFC 70 is already looking much better than recent cards, though in all honesty much of that card was set before the Pride PPV aired. Then if UFC steps up their card, pride steps up theirs, and so on... I guess what I'm saying is that with competition the fans win.
Am I making any sense here, or am I just talking crazy?
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02-27-2007, 01:21 AM
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you are making perfect sense. when buissneses compete, the consumer wins. this is why i don't understand people that say they want one or the other to die completely, its counter productive. for example remember when WWE bought out WCW and ECW? well at one time WWE was good, once they had no more competition they stopped trying and the product shows it. yay for competition!
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02-27-2007, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sirdilznik
Pride 33 was an awesome event. I don't know how much money it made (and will make), but if the quality of the product translates into sales then it should be gold. I know I told every MMA or even semi-MMA fan I know about it and told them to order a replay, most of them had already heard from others (or seen it) and were psyched to order it already. My thinking is that if Pride 33 does indeed turn out to be a financial success (it is already a great success with fans), maybe that will force the UFC to step up the quality of their cards. UFC 70 is already looking much better than recent cards, though in all honesty much of that card was set before the Pride PPV aired. Then if UFC steps up their card, pride steps up theirs, and so on... I guess what I'm saying is that with competition the fans win.
Am I making any sense here, or am I just talking crazy?
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We can only hope. If PrideFC keeps putting on good shows like this, and the UFC fails to deliver, I'm going to start going to Hooters for the UFC PPVs.
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02-27-2007, 11:49 PM
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competition is the best thing forany product
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02-28-2007, 12:37 AM
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I've always thought that Pride's fight cards have been their strong point. It's the UFC's card that's gotten better with the organizations competing.
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02-28-2007, 10:23 AM
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I agree, this was a huge success for mma, it really put the momentum back for pride, and having 2 big organisations putting up big shows can only improve mma visibility.
I dont know if u guys realised that, but ever since pride 32, we have had some very crazy cards, esp from pride, but also from the ufc..
Does any of you know how many people fill in at a sold out ufc event?
I know at pride 33, there was something close to 14000 people, which is already an improvement of the 8-9000 for pride 32.. how many is it going to be if they sold out?
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02-28-2007, 10:33 AM
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Good cards like that are great for the sport. So are the type of well produced events that PRIDE puts together.
With the results of PRIDE 33 (all of the upsets) it is definitely going to be good for the MMA world. After all, it can't be bad.
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02-28-2007, 05:03 PM
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as much as it pains me, especially since the Amercan rule system... i think PRIDE's future is in America. let me exaplain. PRIDE has the top talent and the best, most honed MMA promotion around. the UFC is exploding faster than an italian teenager's face. Competition fules everything, especially business, which all sports, and especially MMA in the US, are!
to have the two--and really only--top MMA companies competing on the same ground as opposed to literally around the world from one another, can only force the sport to grow and get even more exciting. PRIDE being only in Japan allows the UFC to stagnate and give us the same old, boring, un-talented fights we were getting used to. But recently, around the time of PRIDE's last US event, the UFC started really upping their events. From what i hear, this last PRIDE show was great--as 98% of them are anyway. This means that in the same country, there are the two top, most exciting MMA organizations...
if you can't see how this is great, i don't know how to explain it to you.
eventually, after the "great MMA wars of 2007-2008 or 9" PRIDE and the UFC will begin to cooporate. Not merge; not ever. But you will eventually see a point where they've made all the money they can alone, and will start to unify the sport. there will always be two--at least--MMA organizations, but we will begin to see it sort of take the shape of "conferences" or "divisions" where they do their own thing, and come together fairly often to unify rankings!
you just wait and see!!!
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