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Old 10-24-2011, 10:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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When are they going to get rid of these incompetent judges, and change the whole damn system? If the match is close enough to get a split decision, then just make the match a draw and make them fight a 4th round or maybe even 5th to determine a clear winner... what a bunch of amateurs!
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Unfortunately the current system has been in place so long it's dug in. As for draws those have happened before. We saw that in Edgar versus Maynard 2 and with Penn versus Fitch.
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Old 10-25-2011, 12:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I say take the judging out entirely.

Whenever you have judging, you will have a system to "game", and give someone an incentive NOT to finish the fight, but to play it safe.

Yeah, I know, a lot of people are afraid of draws instead of having a winner, and it would throw off everyone's favorite mental workout of assigning rankings, but I guarantee that ALL of the fights would be more exciting and more enjoyable.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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In theory that would work out but in reality it wouldn't work out. If two fighters are so evenly matched then the fight would go on for a long time. Regulations with state commissions forbids that.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
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1. There will always be a judging system. As mentioned, it's needed to be there for sanctioning. There's still the perception out there (among some) that UFC/MMA is "human cock-fighting", if there were no judges it would only further that perception.

2. I don't think there have been a ton of horrendous decisions. There are obviously some fights that people have disagreed with, but it's no different than a bad penalty in hockey, or Jim Joyce blowing the out that cost Gallaraga a perfect game. It's easy to criticize in a replay, but sometimes what judges see ringside is different that what we see/hear on TV. Sometimes people just make mistakes and "blow the call".

3. The biggest issue is that judging/points is very subjective. Some judges will give a round to a wrestler whp scores a take-down and lays on his opponent for a round (and lands a few punches), while other judges may award the round to the fighter in the same situation who is on the bottom and attempts 2-3 submissions.

4. If I had one complaint, it is that I don't think judges score rounds as a tie enough.

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Old 10-25-2011, 03:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah, I do agree that there could be a better judging system. Also I do agree that most of the time the judges get it right. The point of view of a judge can be very subjective.
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In theory that would work out but in reality it wouldn't work out. If two fighters are so evenly matched then the fight would go on for a long time. Regulations with state commissions forbids that.
At least if there is extra-time we will know there was no "robbery" and it was very even, and fighters may get big bonuses for a competitive overtime fight, so that they dont feel robbed!
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Well if there were more draws in MMA I could possibly see that point. However, draws are extremely rare contrary to popular belief. That being said a draw with an extra round isn't justified.
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In theory that would work out but in reality it wouldn't work out. If two fighters are so evenly matched then the fight would go on for a long time. Regulations with state commissions forbids that.
I never said to take away time limits. Tell them they have three rounds, or it's a draw. And that if they make the fight REALLY suck, then it's a double-loss.

Incentivize.
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Old 10-26-2011, 11:04 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Well if there were more draws in MMA I could possibly see that point. However, draws are extremely rare contrary to popular belief. That being said a draw with an extra round isn't justified.
It is justified, because the fighters would get an extra opportunity to decide the match, and get paid more
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