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Old 11-03-2011, 08:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
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If you train UFC then you would easily be able to defend your self. Or download some instructional video's of Rob Emerson kicking someones ass.
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You guys having some fun with the OP?

here's my honest answer. It absolutely depends on you and where you train. Some people have a natural punch. some have great balance, some just aren't meant to fight. Your willingness and ability to tolerate pain will make a big difference.

BJJ is not necessarily the best form of real life self defense. In a true 1 on 1 situation BJJ is the shit and will win against any untrained opponent every time.

BUT in most real life situations I have seen (lots) ground fighting gets you kicked in the head by his friends and/or trapped under a pile on .

in real life you want to stay on your feet. you use bjj or wrestling to get the **** up.
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Ideally you should never stop learning self defense because you can learn something everyday. Even blackbelts learn something new every class.

I understand why you would want to do this though, there is some assholes out there.

6 months could definitely help but I doubt it would help you 99% of the time.
Hi thanks. I had trained in Taekwando when I was a kid before. I even attained a brown belt, which is the belt just before the black belt. Sadly, I doubt any of those TKD moves would help in a real fight. I still remember even the basic blocks were so ridiculous that I am sure it wouldn't work in a real fight.

Rather than teaching you to keep your chin down and parry or move out of striking distance, TKD teaches you this stupid rising block, which frankly, even in training, will get you punched. I have forgotten almost everything in TKD now but I think if I get back into martial arts, I would find my feet real fast.

If I have the chance to train MMA for a longer time, I would. But after six months, I would be posted to a rather secluded area to work in a stressful job, hence, I doubt I have the time to continue MMA training. I also doubt that there would be a MMA gym nearby.

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You guys having some fun with the OP?

here's my honest answer. It absolutely depends on you and where you train. Some people have a natural punch. some have great balance, some just aren't meant to fight. Your willingness and ability to tolerate pain will make a big difference.

BJJ is not necessarily the best form of real life self defense. In a true 1 on 1 situation BJJ is the shit and will win against any untrained opponent every time.

BUT in most real life situations I have seen (lots) ground fighting gets you kicked in the head by his friends and/or trapped under a pile on .

in real life you want to stay on your feet. you use bjj or wrestling to get the **** up.
No one really falls to the ground voluntarily when attacked. Unless you are Nog, and you are fighting in the UFC where stomps and kicks to downed opponents are disallowed. Or unless you are a turtle.

If a guy falls onto his back, I would tee off with a kick to his balls.
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Six months of training will win you most street fights if you start sparring early and frequently (in my opinion anyway). Most people dont know how to throw straight and accuarate punches and will lose their composure the first time they are hit in a fight. Sparring will desensitize you to being hit (to an extent) and teach you how to stay calm in a fight. Now, when it comes to defending yourself from someone that is truly intent upon hurting you, that is a whole different animal. You can never be fully prepared for that situation, because people in those circumstances are incrediby unpredictable. They may have a knife or some other kind of weapon. They may try and bite you and poke your eyes out, even if you do put them in some kind of submission. You never really know. So as mentioned before, you should never stop learning how to protect yourself and try to learn something new everytime you train.
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Old 11-03-2011, 03:37 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Honesty is the best way, and what you said is completely true! That's why I like BJJ the best, it is the most practical for real life, it basically acts on AFTER you have been attacked. Say you get knocked down and now you need to defend from further damage, BJJ is perfect. Plus, the chances of choking someone out is WAY more likely then knocking someone out.
BJJ is not self defense anymore. What is taught in gyms now is sports BJJ, I'm sorry to say it, but it's true. In a street fight the last play I would ever want to be is on the ground grappling. Look if you are going to fight one man sure it will help you, but lets say you get to mount and are just raining hell down on him, where is his buddy that is going to walk up and kick you in the head? Better yet, you're fighting and you throw an armbar or god forbid a triangle on someone and they go "There is something on my face" and bite down, now you're in an entirely different problem. Even the Gracie in action DVDs aren't self defense, they are fighting, where there are rules and gentlemen's agreements. What happens if you end up on the bottom and the guy gouges at your eyes? That's not even in a BJJ system.

If you want real self-defense try something like Kali, it's a Filipino martial art that teaches you how to defend yourself brutally. But it's not for a simple street fight, it can be very dangerous and deadly.

There is some kind of misconception that a lot of the traditional martial arts are shit because they aren't found in MMA. Here's the thing with that, let's take Kung Fu for example, most of the bases for attack or defending yourself in Kung Fu attack the four orbs, two high, two low(your eyes and your nuts) What is the first thing you can't do in MMA? Attack the eyes or groin. Also, in BJJ you can go full speed with anyone at anytime just for fun, so you can clearly see it works. You can't do that with a traditional martial art, if you did one guy would go and the other guy would never get a turn because he'd be headed to the hospital.

The point being, if you're concerned for your safety, learn an art that will truly hurt someone in the event you use it. I carry a knife with me whenever I go places that I might be slightly concerned about, I've trained in Kali for quite a while and while I hope I never do use it, I feel safe in knowing that if I do I will know what I'm doing. Basically, what I'm saying is this, when you're in a fight on the street, you don't fight fairly, you don't have any agreements and nothing is off limits. If you ever get to the point you're going to fight on the street, you're fighting to survive not to win.

Btw. this is coming from someone who has a brown in BJJ.
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If you really wanna defend yourself you should be learning something like Krav Maga. BJJ, Wrestling, or boxing does not teach you how to fight in a real world scenario. Krav Maga is designed to specifically do that. You can train against weapons, multiple people, just about any scenario you can think of.
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BJJ is not self defense anymore. What is taught in gyms now is sports BJJ, I'm sorry to say it, but it's true. In a street fight the last play I would ever want to be is on the ground grappling.
This. People don't understand that using BJJ in the street is high risk, wrestlign serves you better,, if you are on top you can stomp them,kick them knee them, elbow and punch them and even do more dirty stuff. Wrestling,muay thai and Boxing are the best 3 for street fighting. And yarr I do BJJ at Gracie Barra and train MMA(oops I mean UFC)
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[quote=oldfan;1497046]You guys having some fun with the OP?

here's my honest answer. It absolutely depends on you and where you train. Some people have a natural punch. some have great balance, some just aren't meant to fight. Your willingness and ability to tolerate pain will make a big difference.

BJJ is not necessarily the best form of real life self defense. In a true 1 on 1 situation BJJ is the shit and will win against any untrained opponent every time.

BUT in most real life situations I have seen (lots) ground fighting gets you kicked in the head by his friends and/or trapped under a pile on .

in real life you want to stay on your feet. you use bjj or wrestling to get the **** up.[/QUOTE]

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This gentleman speaks the truth. I've seen and been in quite a few bar fights and on the streets. Funny thing is I don't spar hard in training because I'm there to enjoy it and to refine my techniques. I'm not a pro fighter so what's the point of trying to KO your friend or sparring partner. Last I've already seen fools get their heads split open, broken bones, faces kicked in looking like that monster from Goonies, etc.

I like to see myself as the defender of the underdog. In your case DO NOT fight for the sake of fighting because you know martial arts. Try to be a hero and shit happens. 1.) He brings back up. Don't matter if you're a black belt you only have two arms and you will be overpowered. 2.) What if he brings a weapon.

NOW...if this kid continues to punk you, research em. Is he a gang member, local bully, or misfit. If he's the former be careful. If he's the latter then you should have carte blanche because he will not have back up.

Train, research and when that time comes and you're ready. If he comes...then be like what's up...walk up to him...then stare him down RIGHT THROUGH in his eyes. That's my MO baby...scares the ******* shit out of em. Then it's on baby...and fists start flying. I aim to hurt my opponent is hard as I can without killing em.

I'm fortunate I've haven't been bullied in that fashion before. Guess I was always real chill and never looked for trouble. Even when people instigate I play it cool, but with those instances where there were no other options...you handle your business.

Remember martial arts is about discipline and self defense ONLY when you are truly in danger. I'm sure you can talk your way out of this in the meantime train your ass off...hehe.

PS: Keep in mind you'll probably get suspended or expelled, but at least you keep your rep.

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