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Old 11-05-2011, 01:04 AM   #21 (permalink)
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First... Anybody who does not read a contract that they sign for employment deserves what ever hardships come their way!
Just out of curiosity, do you work for a cell phone provider?
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Just out of curiosity, do you work for a cell phone provider?
No, I own a TV production company. Every day I sign contracts, and EVERY one of them are read from front to back. Not reading what you sign can lead to bad things, but the fault is only your own!
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No, I own a TV production company. Every day I sign contracts, and EVERY one of them are read from front to back. Not reading what you sign can lead to bad things, but the fault is only your own!
Yep it is important to read the fine lines. Good thing the UFC isn't like the WWE where they own you (name, merchandise) for the rest of your life.

BTW: I have a question if you guys are rigging and setting up and one of your staff injures himself. Who's liability is it. The venue, promoter, or your production company.
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Thanks for the insightful answers, just keep ignoring those ones who want to turn this into a pissing contest.

I'm glad to hear there are other major sources of income for fighters, not just their purse. I just hope they have proper financial support so they can plan for retirement, or the more or less inevitable injuries. As a sidenote on that front, recently UFC made the unprecedented move to insure all their fighters, which is a win-win for everyone involved.

What are locker room bonuses?

I've also heard that there are penalties paid for not making weight (Thiago Alves in the past, I think he made weight only after 2nd try today), and disciplinary fines (Daley, I'm sure others) to state commissions. Are these based on percentage from earnings from that particular fight, or are they fixed? I'm curious as a fixed sum would make it very easy or very expensive depending on how much one is earning compared to everyone else.
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Iv never seen any solid numbers on what people make from Sponsors. Can anyone show me some type of information on how much a avereage fighter takes home from Sponsorship?? Cause i remember mitrione publicly announced he made like 7k from his sponsors??? (Not 100% if that was the number.) granted that is when he fired his manager BUT it still cant be that much higher. I think you guys are seriously overestimating sponsorship money. I cant see a main card fighter making more then 15-20k from sponsors. A main event fighter might make something like 50k.

I could be 100% wrong as i have not much info to back my claim up either. But i do want to see some information that would say otherwise. It would help me get educated on this subject.



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Thanks for the insightful answers, just keep ignoring those ones who want to turn this into a pissing contest.

I'm glad to hear there are other major sources of income for fighters, not just their purse. I just hope they have proper financial support so they can plan for retirement, or the more or less inevitable injuries. As a sidenote on that front, recently UFC made the unprecedented move to insure all their fighters, which is a win-win for everyone involved.

What are locker room bonuses?

I've also heard that there are penalties paid for not making weight (Thiago Alves in the past, I think he made weight only after 2nd try today), and disciplinary fines (Daley, I'm sure others) to state commissions. Are these based on percentage from earnings from that particular fight, or are they fixed? I'm curious as a fixed sum would make it very easy or very expensive depending on how much one is earning compared to everyone else.
I think its 20% of the fighter who missed weight purse goes to the other fighter if weight isnt made.
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Iv never seen any solid numbers on what people make from Sponsors. Can anyone show me some type of information on how much a avereage fighter takes home from Sponsorship?? Cause i remember mitrione publicly announced he made like 7k from his sponsors??? (Not 100% if that was the number.) granted that is when he fired his manager BUT it still cant be that much higher. I think you guys are seriously overestimating sponsorship money. I cant see a main card fighter making more then 15-20k from sponsors. A main event fighter might make something like 50k.

I could be 100% wrong as i have not much info to back my claim up either. But i do want to see some information that would say otherwise. It would help me get educated on this subject.





I think its 20% of the fighter who missed weight purse goes to the other fighter if weight isnt made.

No your way off! Matt Mitrione made 10k on the prelims and FIRED his manager because that's so low. A main event fighter makes easily 100k.
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Matt Mitrione fired his agent Malki on TV during UFC 119 after he made it clear $5k in sponsorship money was unacceptable for a main card slot.

Sponsorship money like any money you earn in this country--based on your ability to sell yourself to potential employers. Even in corporate america, salary for same job can vary substantially.

I know two guys at MIS at work, one makes 70k, the other makes 120k...they do the same exact job. How well can you negotiate? Make sure you find a good agent/manager.

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No your way off! Matt Mitrione made 10k on the prelims and FIRED his manager because that's so low. A main event fighter makes easily 100k.
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Matt Mitrione fired his agent Malki on TV during UFC 119 after he made it clear $5k in sponsorship money was unacceptable for a main card slot.

Sponsorship money like any money you earn in this country--based on your ability to sell yourself to potential employers. Even in corporate america, salary for same job can vary substantially.

I know two guys at MIS at work, one makes 70k, the other makes 120k...they do the same exact job. How well can you negotiate? Make sure you find a good agent/manager.


I say 7k you guys say 5 and 10. None of that is way off.... 7k or 10k its not much of a difference.

I gotta go to work but we shall talk when i get back.

Post some links to some proof on what they make off sponsors.

Im here to get educated... if im wrong then good atleast im going to learn and grow. But im trying to get educated by proof and not peoples opinion.
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I say 7k you guys say 5 and 10. None of that is way off.... 7k or 10k its not much of a difference.

I gotta go to work but we shall talk when i get back.

Post some links to some proof on what they make off sponsors.

Im here to get educated... if im wrong then good atleast im going to learn and grow. But im trying to get educated by proof and not peoples opinion.
This isn't "peoples oppinion" I am a brand owner, I talk to management companies everyday. I haven't found cheaper than $600 to sponsor a unknown pro fighter. Nevermind a UFC fighter.
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