[Killz]

In my opinion, If you dont tap, or verbally submit, then you get what you get. It's the responsibility of the fighter in the submission to stop it, Not the fighter who has the hold.

Rhonda was right in cranking that arm and 100% should have kept going until the tap. Nobody is complaining at frank Mir snapping limbs and I dont see how this is any different.

[Joabbuac]

In that video, if you see what Rousey says as the video is showing it makes sense, she did let the submission off just after it was totally locked out - I dont think she tried to cheat a win...which is what it looked like at first. You can see why she was not gonna let go of this one though....for the title against a world class female fighter.

[Killz]

Originally Posted by Joabbuac

In that video, if you see what Rousey says as the video is showing it makes sense, she did let the submission off just after it was totally locked out - I dont think she tried to cheat a win...which is what it looked like at first. You can see why she was not gonna let go of this one though....for the title against a world class female fighter.

Yeah, her story matches perfectly to the video evidence. Sounds like the other fighter was just bitter and trying to get out of a 25 second loss.

[cdtcpl]

Originally Posted by fight_doctor

As a human being engaging in a sport you want to win. The goal isn't to end someone's career or cause permanent damage, and if you do, you'd feel bad about it. Winning isn't worth taking a chance on crippling someone for life. If you don't feel bad about it, even if you had no choice, then you are sub-human in my humble opinion. And she did have choices if Tate was too tough for her own good. She could have called out to the ref that it was breaking and asked him to stop it earlier. Its not as egregious as Steve Cantwell saying he's "always wanted to do that" but its not far off either.



Apparently their idiocy, self-absorption, and lack of class is contagious.

Go ahead, call me names, I don't really care. There is a clear difference between Ronda and Cantwell, so to even make a comparison in any fashion is a slap in the face to MMA fighters. Do I think Ronda wanted to break Tates arm and possibly ruin her career? Nope. But it is Tate's job to protect herself at all times, including tapping to prevent injury. Ronda shouldn't feel bad or back down because Tate is a tough as nails DOB.

[fight_doctor]

Originally Posted by oldfan

Ronda tried that way before and Sarah D'Alelio is still complaining about it.

This is my point. When she didn't want to break the arm she tried to avoid it. In this fight she didn't try to avoid it. That's shitty.

EDIT: This is the Ronda Rousey appreciation thread. If you don't, then don't let the door hit you...

I usually like to wear out my welcome and get thrown out. :-)

[fight_doctor]

Originally Posted by cdtcpl

Go ahead, call me names, I don't really care.

Not sure where I called you a name? (maybe my evil twin got loose, but he's safely caged in an alternate universe.) I offered a description of the Diaz's and suggested these traits have infected Rousey - but now someone says they barely train together - so who knows if that's the source. Maybe she's just mentally weak and took things too personally.

There is a clear difference between Ronda and Cantwell, so to even make a comparison in any fashion is a slap in the face to MMA fighters. Do I think Ronda wanted to break Tates arm and possibly ruin her career? Nope. But it is Tate's job to protect herself at all times, including tapping to prevent injury. Ronda shouldn't feel bad or back down because Tate is a tough as nails DOB.

Difference in egregiousness but not the nature of the event. If Ronda wanted to avoid permanently hurting Tait she could have done *something.* But she was huffy about the head butt and showed immaturity and lack of self control. In human activity there will always be differences of opinion. I'm just saying that I will not be a Rousey fan (which I was starting to become) for the foreseeable future, and as it stands now I'd be delighted to see her laying up against the cage with eyes rolled back and leg pinned under her Rashad Evans via Machida style.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by fight_doctor

This is my point. When she didn't want to break the arm she tried to avoid it. In this fight she didn't try to avoid it. That's shitty.



I usually like to wear out my welcome and get thrown out. :-)

Well hopefully that happens sooner rather than later. This thread wasn't made for the sake of debate. Take it elsewhere if you're looking to argue.

More Ronda apprecitation:P

[VolcomX311]

It's Tate's responsibility to tap, Ronda letting go because she's concerned about Tate puts Ronda in a position to still get beat. Fights not over until ref says so or a fighter taps, there's really not much else to it.

[cdtcpl]

Originally Posted by fight_doctor

Not sure where I called you a name? (maybe my evil twin got loose, but he's safely caged in an alternate universe.)

Originally Posted by fight_doctor

If you don't feel bad about it, even if you had no choice, then you are sub-human in my humble opinion.

Your reference to me being "sub-human" because I don't believe she should feel bad about Tate's arm.

[Rusty]