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Old 12-03-2011, 09:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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35? fook me sideways he's got no time to improve grappling and kicks and knees properly to be successful look at cosmo alexandre he is a muay thai master and he is 1-1 with his win coming over a striker.
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Old 12-04-2011, 09:24 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Vic Darchiniyan is in his prime? News to me.

Anyway he's fighting at 124lb now so he's a natural fit for 125lbs.
He was outclassed and upset last night on Showtime.
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Old 12-04-2011, 05:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Well so much for that idea. Anyways I was just to answer an earlier question James Toney's UFC contract allowed him to do boxing while in the UFC. Not that it mattered after Couture submitted him.
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:19 AM   #14 (permalink)
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He was outclassed and upset last night on Showtime.
Yeh, Moreno has never fought in the US before but has wins over big names in their own backyard (Sydorenko).

Moreno is a world class champion, no reason for Vic to hang his head there. He takes them all on and that's what happens when you step in the ring with absolutely every single big name in the deepest division in boxing (Agbeko, Perez, Mares and Moreno, not to mention perhaps the best P4P fighter in the world, Nonito Donaire). That is a serious resume.

No doubt though, this is nothing like Toney or Mercer crossing over, both who were nobodies in boxing at the point they moved. This represents the first time an actual future HOFer will try his hand at MMA. Sure he isn't going to be top drawer champion with not enough years left at his phyiscal peak to develop and he is probably too small even for the flyweight division in MMA anyways. But by far the biggest talent in boxing to ever cross over in their glory years which is sure to make for an interesting spectacle.

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Old 12-05-2011, 02:51 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Yeh, Moreno has never fought in the US before but has wins over big names in their own backyard (Sydorenko).

Moreno is a world class champion, no reason for Vic to hang his head there. He takes them all on and that's what happens when you step in the ring with absolutely every single big name in the deepest division in boxing (Agbeko, Perez, Mares and Moreno, not to mention perhaps the best P4P fighter in the world, Nonito Donaire). That is a serious resume.
It's a great resume and he will forsure go down as one of the best, but I feel like Vic is def on the back side and not prime anymore, Donaire started the beginning of the end for him and the Moreno fight really showed that he isn't elite anymore.

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This represents the first time an actual future HOFer will try his hand at MMA. Sure he isn't going to be top drawer champion with not enough years left at his phyiscal peak to develop and he is probably too small even for the flyweight division in MMA anyways. But by far the biggest talent in boxing to ever cross over in their glory years which is sure to make for an interesting spectacle.
I disagree and I'm sure Yodsanan Sityodtong would strongly disagree.



Yod was a beast in boxing and someone I hold higher than Vic.
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Old 12-05-2011, 04:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Well One FC is definately using MMA as the way it used to be with. That whole first card was discipline versus discipline. Obviously they are using MMA and still getting regulation.
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Old 12-05-2011, 05:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I don't know much about the guy, but if I were in his shoes... I'd worry more about jiu-jitsu and wrestling than just gaining weight. I don't care how good of boxer you are, if you don't learn MMA, you're going to get eaten alive in an MMA bout.

And at 35... like it or not, you don't learn as fast at 35, your reactions are not as fast, and you don't heal as fast. Yeah, Randy did wonderful into his 40's, but that's one single person, and other than him, it just hasn't happened.

That's not to say that Vic will suck. Maybe he's done a lot of ground work, and could do alright. But I doubt he'll ever make it to the UFC, he'll probably do a small number of fights in a smaller org, then disappear from the scene.
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I don't know much about the guy, but if I were in his shoes... I'd worry more about jiu-jitsu and wrestling than just gaining weight. I don't care how good of boxer you are, if you don't learn MMA, you're going to get eaten alive in an MMA bout.

And at 35... like it or not, you don't learn as fast at 35, your reactions are not as fast, and you don't heal as fast. Yeah, Randy did wonderful into his 40's, but that's one single person, and other than him, it just hasn't happened.

That's not to say that Vic will suck. Maybe he's done a lot of ground work, and could do alright. But I doubt he'll ever make it to the UFC, he'll probably do a small number of fights in a smaller org, then disappear from the scene.
Darchinyan's dad was an Olympic wrestling coach in Greco-Roman....not really sure how much training Darchinyan did himself but it's a promising thought.

Personally I think it will be a rough go as he is far too small for MMA BW and the paydays are just not there at Flyweight.
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I disagree and I'm sure Yodsanan Sityodtong would strongly disagree.



Yod was a beast in boxing and someone I hold higher than Vic.
Put it this way, nearly 100% of historians would disagree with you. Yods resume is nowhere near in the same stratosphere as Vics!

Vic will go down in the HOF. Yod won't.

That said, at this age, at his small weight, I don't see him being a world beater. But will be interesting nonetheless, apparently the guy is strong as hell for his size and he LOVES to scrap!

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Old 12-12-2011, 02:40 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I saw his last fight he was really dominated. Im'm not sure how he will do in mma.
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