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Toxic 01-07-2012 12:19 PM

Why Womens MMA Needs Ronda Rousey More Than Ever.
 
While the UFC and mens MMA in general has seen continued strides in wide spread acceptance as a sport womens MMA has largely struggled along having difficulty being seen as more than a fringe niche novelty act. In its infancy Gina Carano appeared as the standard flag bearer for the division and carried it well. Despite not being the best fighter her combination of skill and good looks drew attention to a division that was in desperate need of it. Once it had that attention she was mauled and passed that torch to Cyborg whose viscous attacks and unfeminine looks made womens mma to a level where it was no longer stereotyped in the same league as the lingerie bowl. Now while it has been seen that women can be beaten bloody and accepted by some it is still not on the same level of acceptance as there male counterparts. Enter Ronda Rousey. Just as in the early days of the UFC Dan Severn showed up with legit credentials that helped legitimize the sport of MMA, Rousey can in turn do that for Womens MMA. The thing is if you talk to people who don't follow womens MMA and you talk about women fighting one of two images will come to there mind. Hot scantly clad women having a catfight or two big ugly Sasquatches clobbering each other. Rousey can change that image because if you say women Olympian the pretty well groomed athlete comes to mind. If your an olympian people assume you have skills and people don't hold the same make the same pre-made assumptions about female olympians as they do female fighters. She can single handily legitimize the sport of womens MMA. Gina brought it attention, Cyborg proved it can be more than a catfight but with Cyborg's failed steroid test more than ever womens MMA needs Rousey if they want to become legit.

AmdM 01-07-2012 12:37 PM

Pretty and legit?


Voiceless 01-07-2012 01:41 PM

The problem with women's MMA is particularly that with Dana White attitude towards it, it's stuck in some kind of viscous circle. White personally obviously doesn't like women's MMA too much, probably out of a macho mindset. He is a business man though and would promote it if the talent pool was deeper and it brought the cash numbers. But here is the problem, for the talent pool to get deeper and bringing more cash women's MMA needs more exposure so it gets known and starts interest in women to start fighting professionally, but it doesn't get that exposure, because the talent pool isn't deep enough and it doesn't bring the cash. It's the same as with men's MMA in the beginning, it needs someone to build it up. It probably will never get nearly as big as men's MMA, but it definitely could get much bigger than it is now with good promotion.


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Originally Posted by AmdM (Post 1529910)
Pretty and legit?


Pretty and legit, but has the problem to be not an American.

I agree with Toxic that the Olympic Judo background of Rousey could definitely help the credibility of the skill level of women's MMA in the eye of average people.

HellRazor 01-31-2012 11:14 PM

The best thing that's happening to women's combat sports in general is that women's boxing is going to be in the next Olympics.

It's unfortunate that Cyborg tested positive for steroids.

It's unfortunate that Carano isn't fighting because she's got a movie career starting out.

But you can't make a sport on one person. One person can draw attention, but you need the next hundred people providing quality. Not just heart but a quality all around skillset. The problem with women's mma is that the #9 #10 fighters in any given weight class aren't that good.

swpthleg 02-02-2012 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HellRazor (Post 1544134)
The best thing that's happening to women's combat sports in general is that women's boxing is going to be in the next Olympics.

It's unfortunate that Cyborg tested positive for steroids.

It's unfortunate that Carano isn't fighting because she's got a movie career starting out.

But you can't make a sport on one person. One person can draw attention, but you need the next hundred people providing quality. Not just heart but a quality all around skillset. The problem with women's mma is that the #9 #10 fighters in any given weight class aren't that good.

I think that's changing.

Finnsidious 02-17-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HellRazor (Post 1544134)
The best thing that's happening to women's combat sports in general is that women's boxing is going to be in the next Olympics.

It's unfortunate that Cyborg tested positive for steroids.

It's unfortunate that Carano isn't fighting because she's got a movie career starting out.

But you can't make a sport on one person. One person can draw attention, but you need the next hundred people providing quality. Not just heart but a quality all around skillset. The problem with women's mma is that the #9 #10 fighters in any given weight class aren't that good.

Exactly. Someone like Rousey can raise the profile a tiny bit, but the bottom line is there is nothing remotely competitive about women's MMA, the talent pool is way too small right now.

The only way it's going to get better is if the UFC/Strikeforce is willing to put some serious effort into promoting it, for years, while basically taking a loss doing so. I don't get the impression they are all that eager to do that.

cloudpump 02-18-2012 02:48 AM

The problem is women's mma needs more exposure than just being on Showtime. It would take someone that is interested in taking a risk to get a new league on a larger medium, such as Spike, or maybe MTV doing a reality show. Who knows, I also think there are great women fighter's all over the world, definatly deep enough to fill out divisions. The problem is, Japanese fighters stay in Japan, Europeans stay in Europe. Put some money in to it and they will come.

Roflcopter 02-21-2012 11:06 AM

Women's athletics in general(bar tennis and maybe golf) will always be a joke. MMA is no different...if anything it's only exacerbated in MMA.


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