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Old 03-10-2007, 07:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Live Grappling Or Drills In Practice

When you are getting ready for a competition or tournament do you prefer to grapple live or drill moves. I think both have advantages and disadvantages so i just was looking for what others think. Also i'm competing in my first submission grappling tourney in April so i was looking to see what i should concentrate on.
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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When you are getting ready for a competition or tournament do you prefer to grapple live or drill moves. I think both have advantages and disadvantages so i just was looking for what others think. Also i'm competing in my first submission grappling tourney in April so i was looking to see what i should concentrate on.
both have good points, drills your partner can talt to you, what is and isn't working, you work on the details to perfect.
live grappling you can see the faults. it gives you a chance to attempt anything running through your mind, to see if it works.
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At my training camp we always drill first then go live. i really like it this way because atleast 3-4 times a week we are live, so it really gives me a chance to work often in a more competition-realistic situation
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Old 03-15-2007, 10:55 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Drills are good, they help to build strength and emphasize individual movements and parts of a technique, but that's not everything.

Live grappling is the only kind of training that is going to give you a chance to do a technique against an opponent that's resisting you. It gives you instant feedback, whether you win or lose, and it builds conditioning that is absolutely necessary for competition. It trains the muscle groups that you use in particular submissions and takedowns to work together in the exact way that they are supposed to. You can simulate that in a drill, but you don't get the same kind of resistance, or creative response and counter, that you can get from a live grappling partner.

Drills are great for warm ups and to build strength with heavier weights and harder conditions, but you can do all that with live training too. Train with guys who are heavier and/or more skilled than you. Train with a gi on, even if you are competing no-gi. It's like training with additional weight and at a higher level than you need to compete at. That is what builds great competitors.
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As stated in the the thread starter's original post, since there are advantages and disadvantages to both - do both.

I like a period of drilling first. Practice a certain technique over and over. Then switch to live competition and see if you can pull off that technique in a real competitive scenario.
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The program we follow, they drill hard for 40 minutes then we go live. Here is his site Bruce Drago intense material
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Drills are good, they help to build strength and emphasize individual movements and parts of a technique, but that's not everything.

Live grappling is the only kind of training that is going to give you a chance to do a technique against an opponent that's resisting you. It gives you instant feedback, whether you win or lose, and it builds conditioning that is absolutely necessary for competition. It trains the muscle groups that you use in particular submissions and takedowns to work together in the exact way that they are supposed to. You can simulate that in a drill, but you don't get the same kind of resistance, or creative response and counter, that you can get from a live grappling partner.

Drills are great for warm ups and to build strength with heavier weights and harder conditions, but you can do all that with live training too. Train with guys who are heavier and/or more skilled than you. Train with a gi on, even if you are competing no-gi. It's like training with additional weight and at a higher level than you need to compete at. That is what builds great competitors.
Once again Ironbro some excellent advice... And just allow me to add a touch here. Drilling is easy.. we all pretty much know how to do it.. so here are some tips to improve your live grappling sessions.
1) if it is a No Gi competition. go ahead and train with the Gi on as iron said it add extra weight espically as you build up a good sweat. But try not to use it in your practice. Gi and No Gi are two different animals so do both.
2) do grappling with multiple partners. get 2 or 3 others. ANy more then that gets boring actually.. Make sure you all have different styles (not like BJJ, JJJ, Sambo, but like 2 stand up fighters even of the same style they do things differently), Different weight classes helps as well.. Some heavier some lighter. Square off one on one with the others sitting outside the grappling area... And grapple till one loses. THe winner stays and the next guy gets right in. NO REST for the winner. You set a time limit say 30 minutes. when the buzzer sounds you all get a break. THis works great if your all in the competition and helps build your in ring cardio. If you are the only one in the competition you stay in win or lose but shorten the time at first. GReat way to train plus its fun to keep score and hold like your own mini competition. And good luck see if you can get video of it. win or lose it works as a good training material .
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